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Fedex Orders 27 767 Freighters, 2 777 Freighters

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Fedex ordered 767s and 777s. I wonder if they will order 747-8 freighters too. (boeing.mediaroom.com) Mais...

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FedExCargoPilot
FedExCargoPilot 0
Gary,

My reasons being the A330 can carry more cargo faster farther and efficiently to places like china from MEM w/out stops in ANC. I thought the MDs are similar to the 330? I was just surprised that the 67s were for long hauls it doesn't make much sense, would have thought more for the domestic replacement of A300s. Since I haven't flown an airbus, I guess I don't see what to dislike about it. Would also like to see Airbus in FedEx fleet. But whatever works for the CO.
QuickBurn
QuickBurn 0
The 767-300 can still run a long ways... Memphis to Europe is a cakewalk. It could also do Oakland to Asia (or Europe) if FedEx wanted to do it that way.
preacher1
preacher1 0
the ER version of the 76 has the range. As you said you haven't flown it but you know that Labor is a tenuous issue at MEM and with Fedex as a whole. It was't public knowledge but here while back when they were looking at AB over the 777's, they had a mini pilot's revolt on their hands when they even started talking AB. That plus the fact, if I remember right, they were looking at 380's and while the direct cost savings were there, management's ass was saved on account of the Pilot's deal because they had failed to look at the cost of reconfiguring everything to handle the 380. You won't hear that on the street.
Derg
Roland Dent 0
Wayne! Caution the MBA's are very sensitive people..but don'tchya just love it when they get egg on their cute little faces...bless em.
canuck44
canuck44 0
You have some good points but the while the 330 is a good airplane it is a victim of its own success and Airbus failure. Airlines are dumping the 340 first (none are rushing to make that a freighter)...not their 330s in part because of the uncertainty of when they will see a 350 replacement.

Here is what the company said the "767s will provide similar capacity as the MD10s being retired, with about 30 percent more fuel efficiency and a minimum 20 percent reduction in unit operating costs."
FedExCargoPilot
FedExCargoPilot 0
They should have purchased a330 Freighters instead, better performance and more cargo.
canuck44
canuck44 0
Why?...the 76 is replacing aircraft with similar or lesser capacity, many with less range and FedEx does not have the luxury of sitting around waiting for a full load in midsized cities.

I suspect the key is that many used 763ERs will become available for conversion as the 787 reaches the passenger fleets. They can buy these up and convert them, updating the cockpits and engines for less than half the price of buying new. This is the FedEx way...727 and 757s are prime examples.

Boeing is happy as it keeps their line open until the tanker is coming out.
FedExCargoPilot
FedExCargoPilot 0
Well, the article gave no indication that FedEx is getting rid of their a310s/a300s as their medium haul/domestic flights. It looked as if the 767 was to be used for longer haul flights. The a330 is a good substitution for the larger but great 777F. It can reach long distances like Memphis to Asia, australia, middle east where the 767 cant, with much more cargo. They only have few flights in one day or not even between cities, so they can arrange it accordingly with the slightly bigger A330. The a330 has better performance against the 767. It wouldn't have been my choice, but they bought them, and brand new.

I see the point of conversions from airlines who want to sell them to FedEx. Unless US airlines buy many 787s, which I personally think is a downgrade from the 767 based on what US airline's needs, the 767 will be sticking around for a while. It was stated in the article that Boeing is going to make more of them.
BoeingFan59
Troy Raiteri 0
Why buy Airbus when the pilots don't even like the A300/310s?
THRUSTT
THRUSTT 0
Why should a company cater to what the pilots want to fly? Do pilots get into the business to fly, or to fly a specific airplane???
BoeingFan59
Troy Raiteri 0
That's why FedEx cares. They care if there employees are happy or not. Sure they get into to fly but they get respect for flying for that company as well!
mduell
Mark Duell 0
They don't need the payload/range capability (and they see a downturn coming, thus delaying the 777F deliveries), so why would they want the higher trip cost of the A332F instead of the B763ERF?
laxlover
Stephen Brown 0
Nice to see fedex 777 and 767
laxlover
Stephen Brown 0
good for beoing
mduell
Mark Duell 0
Also delayed their 777F deliveries.
BoeingFan59
Troy Raiteri 0
WOOHOOo!!!
bw50505
Ben W. 0
It's good that FedEx is getting new freighters, but this also means that the older A300s and DC10s may get retired. :(
BoeingFan59
Troy Raiteri 0
Yeah that sad I'm a huge fan of the DC10 but not an A300/A310 fan. Just adds more aircraft going over my home...one more aircraft (which will never happen) the 787 and all Boeing will be going over.
dgelliott
Donald G. Elliott 0
I doubt FedEx will ever own 727s again...

Don Elliott,
Emp. # 206
preacher1
preacher1 0
Well Don, you are over there and your profile says you are an ATP so I am assuming you are one of their pilots. While the 27 is a wonderful bird, taking 3 on the crew and that extra engine, and any purchase being totally used or reman, I'm like you, I doubt we'll see it.
Reach0387
Gary Koivisto 0
Working at a FedEx ramp as I do and having many conversations with the crews and MX workers I know, the reasons for the 76 is as follows: 1) The crews do not like Airbus, period, 2) The 76 allows for a common type rating with the 75 (which FedEx continues to purchase to replace the 72), 3) The similarity to the MD-10/11s make it easy to replace those routes. What I mean is that sometimes there is an issue with there being too much palletized freight or 96" X 128"-sized containers at a certain market. The Airbus can't hold as much as the MDs or 76s. Also, why buy the 330? Just b/c its bigger? FedEx does not want to waste money on flying empty a/c around. This leads to lost revenues.

Glad to see Boeing and the American worker win out on this one. I'm glad to see my company expand while also supporting those companies at home. Plus, its great to see that for the time being they will operate 72, 75, 76 & 77s.
alistairm
alistairm 0
Boeing all the way! Thanks FedEx.
FedExCargoPilot
FedExCargoPilot 0
Will boeing install winglets on these freighters? In the picture the FedEx 767 has only the standard wing.
Derg
Roland Dent 0
Wayne don'tch'yas just love it when the MBA set get egg on their cute little faces? I do!
preacher1
preacher1 0
They damn sure did on that one and you didn't see that in the media.LOL. Word I got was that there were some in FedEx at the top that didn't know it.They do now as they got to asking stupid questions like" How come we aren't buying the 380's". LOL
Shadowstarz
Shadowstarz 0
WOOHOOO!!!

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