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Rescue 007: The Soviet massacre of flight KAL007

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The 1983 Stalking; Shoot-down; and Rescue Missions by the Soviet Union of the Korean Airlines Flight 007. (www.youtube.com) Mais...

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johnlear
John Lear 1
Chalet I forgot to ask you where you got your information that the Boeing 747 fuel system is 'atop' the fuselage. In fact it is in the center section of the wing below the fuselage.
chalet
chalet 1
Indeed, I should have said below the body.
johnlear
John Lear 1
WHAT? Somebody is going to be honest here? First class chalet. First class.
chalet
chalet 1
OK thanks John.
Firewalled1
Firewalled1 1
Not only all that, it was documented by a retired Soviet Colonial that stated the Soviets even used an electric razor to fake radio calls to the airliner. The Soviets knew for a fact that they were lining up on an unarmed civilian airliner with the intent to shoot it down. SOBz they are....
jbsimms
James Simms 0
Just graduated & recieved my Army Commission. Was sent to Korea after Basic Course & have always felt this was a reason why. Not complaining, just an observation, I’d go back in a heartbeat if I could.
Cansojr
Cansojr 1
What does this have to do with the current topic?
siriusloon
siriusloon 1
It happened near Korea and involved a Korean plane?
Cansojr
Cansojr 1
Why didn't The Frontal Aviation pilot could have got closer or enough that it's a civilian airliner. He squeezed off a few canon shells to alert the pilots they had violated Russisan Airspace. Instead of doing that he blew kit out of the sky.
siriusloon
siriusloon 1
If it was nighttime in weather, that's not the time for even the best pilot, let alone one under very strict ground control, to find and then fly close formation with another aircraft.
johnlear
John Lear 1
Siriuloon you obviously haven't flown much close formation. I have. I have 600 hours of formation and there is no truth to your statement that the best of pilots can't find an aircraft in weather and fly formation at night in weather. Maybe you could tell me how much time you have in formation? Please.
Cansojr
Cansojr -4
They are a bunch of heavily armed goons who will kill anyone in the path of their rockets and shells destined for people who do not agree with Vlad and his oligarch cronies (Russian Mob). KAL007 was shot down intentionally. The goon pilot and goon commander in chief should be tried for mass murder. Don't forget the Malaysian flight which they intentionally shot down with a rocket. Next they literally went through the valuables of the people they just killed. They have no moral or ethical basis. Put vodka in the Russian military and they would probably kill their own mothers for sport. RUSSIA MAKES ME SICK!
Cansojr
Cansojr 1
Don't people want the truth? What I have written is factual history. I apologize if I have offended other participants. Mea Culpa for any slights. I am not an angry soul who must be right all the time. I am tired of Russia being an international trouble maker. Thats a fact. What has Russia done to better our society...NOTHING.
siriusloon
siriusloon 0
Unless you're Russian, why do you think they have any obligation to better [y]our society? That's OUR job, not theirs.
chalet
chalet 0
You are missing one important piece of information: you are not taking the daily prescription of what your good doctor ordered. Once you are get back on track, you might come back here. OK?.
Cansojr
Cansojr 1
You missed your electroshock treatment. It's evident in your obscure ruminations about nothing. Hope you are back to normal soon (sic).
richardorgill
Richard Orgill 1
Be careful it wasn't so many years ago that America shot down a civilian plane...somehow we manage to forget what we do during times of conflicts but always remember what our enemies do.

As a retired Marine Corps pilot there were many times I questioned if I could hit the "button" trying to save innocent lives or during 9-1-1 could I have taken innocent American lives to save countless others and the twin towers.
johnlear
John Lear -2
A civilian plane? The U.S. Navy shot down 5 civilian planes accidentally starting with the Flying Tigers Lockheed Constellation over Guam with US soldiers heading to Viet Nam in 1963 and TWA Flight 800.
chalet
chalet 1
Where do you get ypu get your information. The investigation of the accident of the Flying Tigers Super Constellation never blamed the Navy for it, in fact they never got to find put what caused it. The TWA 747 Flight 800 exploded mid-air newar the Long Island Sound because of a badly desogned fuel tank system atop the fuselage.
johnlear
John Lear 1
Your excuses are total nonsense chalet. The Navy fighter out of Agana Air Base on Guam was proven to have fired the rocket that destroyed the Constellation which he was using for target practice. The firing mechanism was supposed to have been disabled but was not. The practice of using civilian airliners was halted by the Navy after that accident. I was working for Tigers at the time and got the inside information. As to TWA 800 that fuel tank story is complete BS. There is no possible way for a fuel pump to ignite fuel in the center tanks. I was flying parts for Boeing out of Wichita at the times and the Boeing guys were livid at the bs fuel pump story which I discussed with them at length. I also am a mechanic and know how fuel pumps are sealed in fuel tanks. So you might want to stop telling your fairy tales around people who know the truth. Thanks very much.
johnlear
John Lear -1
You need to get your stories straight. MS17 did not exist. It was MS370 masquerading as MS17. The Russians did not shoot it down. The Israeli fighters guiding it did. The first on scene doctors said all of the passengers on board had been dead for 3 weeks, including the 5 Chinese engineers who co-held a patent which ended up with the Carlyle Group.
siriusloon
siriusloon 1
no, no, no! The shiny side has to face OUT when you line your hat with tin foil.
Cansojr
Cansojr 1
Hi John, it is not MS370 it is MH370 for Malaysian.
Cansojr
Cansojr 1
I didn't know that Israel shot down a Malaysian airliner.
johnlear
John Lear 0
MH370 refueled in Diego Garcia and flew to Tel Aviv. All pax were gassed along the way. In Tel Aviv the B-777 was outfitted with remote control of the Boeing uninteruptable autopilot in 2 of their fighters. They departed Tel Aviv. The B-777 with the deceased pax onboard was flown to intercept the bogus MH17 route. They intercepted the route time and position and entering Ukraine turned slightly left. When they were over the Zionist controlled area of Ukraine the 2 fighters shot down MH370. Crisis actors were used at Schipol for the non-existant MH17 pax. The whole purpose was to eliminate the 5 Chinese on board MH370 who co-held the patent with Jacob Rothschild. Rothschild was killed in a helicopter flown by my friend Mike Green. He and Rothschild were killed. The patent worth trillions went to the Carlyle Group. I saw photos taken at the crash scene in Ukraine that proved it was MH370 and not MH17.
bbabis
Bill Babis 2
John, please get back on your meds or are meds the reason for your fantasies?
johnlear
John Lear 1
See above.
siriusloon
siriusloon 1
If ANY of that had happened, someone would have talked by now and by "talked" I mean someone who was actually there and involved, not some nut on the internet. Everything gets leaked and the huge number of people who would have had to be involved, even as witnesses to the refuelling you claim happened, someone would have talked. Everyone carries a camera these days, which is why UFO and Loch Ness Monster sightings are way down. You claimed there's a patent. Patents are public information, so of course you will provide the patent number and other details without delay, right? "Rothschild"? Are you sure it wasn't Soros? Or Gates? Or Borat? Tell us more about "your friend" Mike Green and prove he had any idea who you are. Whatever drugs you're on, you should cut back, dude. Or if you did cut back, better increase the dosage.
johnlear
John Lear 1
Thanks for your comment siriusloon. Nobody has 'talked' about Gen. Bobby Bonds murder Or the 64 F-19'a that went to Israel or the SR-71 that Bush gave Gorbechev or that Ben Rich was a Mossad spy or the mag-lev subway that goes from the Bellagio to Sandia, or Sandia for that matter. Nobody has 'talked'. Mike worked at Kalitta when I did. Nope, it was Jacob. Eric is next just watch. I take 2 Naproxen a day. I'll cut back to 1 but I don't think it will help.All the best, John Lear
siriusloon
siriusloon 1
You, sir, are nucking futs. What is with you and conspiracy theories? Are "they" sneaking into your bedroom at 2 am and hypnotizing you to believe this crap?

Oops, I just gave him another conspiracy theory to panic about. My bad.
Cansojr
Cansojr 1
John where did you obtain this amazing information?
johnlear
John Lear 2
I have many sources Cansojr. Jim Stone is one. One can't have lived in Vegas for 45 years, had a 'Q' clearance and flown at the test site without having made a few friends and sources. I am also a member in good standing with the "Cold War Patriots" and 35 year member of Special Operations Association. Google my name. Thanks for asking.
Cansojr
Cansojr 1
You are the most honorable contributor to ever to grace the Squawks. Thank you for your honesty and integrity. This goes a lot farther than the voting system to score points. You score real points with information about any specific item the comes a squawk. Nicely Done.
siriusloon
siriusloon 1
You're crazier than he is if you believe a single word of his nonsense.

Why haven't "they" silenced him for blabbing secrets on here, supposedly using his real name to do it with, too?
johnlear
John Lear 1
My real name is John Lear. You might want to check my FB page as over the past year I have been 'blabbing secrets' about the test site. I am 75 and in poor health. I feel the public has a right to know all of the secrets that I know. Please check bruceseesall on youtube for the biggest secret of all.
johnlear
John Lear 1
Sorry. My mistake.
Cansojr
Cansojr 0
What's the problem with you people because most of you don't know what you are talking about. I have more than several thousand hours flying heavy aircraft and I have studied military and civilian flight safety publications. I didn't get my wings out of a bubble gum machine. I know of what I speak.
siriusloon
siriusloon 0
Every real pilot I know says how many hours they have and their rating, not "I have more than several thousand hours flying heavy aircraft". I call BS. Piles and piles and piles of it.
Cansojr
Cansojr 1

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SoNic67
SoNic67 6
Don't spew your hate and political propaganda here.
johnlear
John Lear -1
Here is an extra one for you seriouslyloon. In 1990 President Bush gave Gorbachev an SR-71 along with a contract to support the airplane and train their pilots for 5 years. This was in return for Gorby's promise not to supply Saddam with any weapons, personnel or intelligence for the upcoming Desert Storm. And oh, btb, my friend Salim bin Laden (Osamas half brother) told me that he started building the underground hangars for the F-117A in 1980.
bbabis
Bill Babis -2
There was a time during perestroika in the 80s-90s that total resolution of KAL007 could have taken place. Something very serious prevented it and the chances now are even more remote. Getting information from the US government on the Kennedy assassination falls in the same category.
siriusloon
siriusloon 1
Catch up. They opened up the archives a year or so ago.
bbabis
Bill Babis 1
Many, but the most important are still shielded for national security reasons whatever they may be 56 years later.
siriusloon
siriusloon 1
There's always some extra secret that the conspiracy nuts claim to know about but never offer any proof for.
bbabis
Bill Babis 1
Hiding behind a name like siriusloon, you seem awfully quick to call everyone else nuts. Some are some aren't. I've never professed a conspiracy on anything. I simply believe that there comes a time for the truth. WE can handle it.

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