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Asiana crash video: Firefighters saw injured girl before she was run over
Teenager Ye Meng Yuan didn't die when a plane crashed at San Francisco International Airport last July. She actually survived the impact, only to die minutes later after a fire truck ran over her. Now, newly released video suggests emergency workers saw Ye's injured body on the ground before she was fatally struck -- challenging earlier claims that she was accidentally run over because she may have been covered in firefighting foam. In the footage, one firefighter tried to stop an… (www.cnn.com) Mais...Sort type: [Top] [Newest]
I didn't see anybody come out of that plane the whole time they were walking past and pointing out her body and running over it not once, but twice. At the same time I saw people go into the plane. I don't recall stories of heroics of responders carrying victims out of the burning plane. As I recall, the victims all walked away before the fire consumed the wreckage. From all the airport disaster drills I've seen it appears SFO fire fighters have never drilled. They didn't even check the victim or do any form of triage according to all reports and this video.
Firefighters (and before them, police officers) entered the burning plane and helped get passengers out of the plane, including carrying some of them*. That is something quite heroic, a selfless act unlike anything that you've ever done or ever would do.
* a number of passengers have been paralyzed ever since the moment that the pilots' actions led to the violent ripping of their bodies.
* a number of passengers have been paralyzed ever since the moment that the pilots' actions led to the violent ripping of their bodies.
I have such empathy for the girl's family. She did manage to survive being ejected from an airplane crash. I think the protocols are foolish that direct the aid away from anybody. Even if the person has died the remains must be treated with care and reverence.
No one can say she would have recovered from the crash injuries because she died as a result of being crushed by a fire truck. There is plenty of blame to be passed out. Money will change hands, and law firms will be the biggest winners. I can assure you the family of the young lady have no interest in money. They would like the airline to hire qualified pilots, and the fire department have better training for the task they signed on to do.
No one can say she would have recovered from the crash injuries because she died as a result of being crushed by a fire truck. There is plenty of blame to be passed out. Money will change hands, and law firms will be the biggest winners. I can assure you the family of the young lady have no interest in money. They would like the airline to hire qualified pilots, and the fire department have better training for the task they signed on to do.
I agree with you in part. Where I disagree is regarding the protocols being 'foolish'. The protocols are based on the idea of saving the greatest number rather than focusing on each particular individual in a mass casualty situation.
Thank you for the assurance that the family has no interest in money. While I must take that with a grain of salt, I am confident that the attorney they have retained does not share in their disinterest.
Thank you for the assurance that the family has no interest in money. While I must take that with a grain of salt, I am confident that the attorney they have retained does not share in their disinterest.
Protocols are foolish that promote the so-called greater good theory. Humans are competent enough to protect all lives. It is inexcusable to take a position that allows some to die so others can live. I offer that is offensive to traditional innate values of human beings.
You thinking of only a slice of the picture. But the reality is there were 300 victims.
The available resources couldn't take care of all 300 victims at once. You must have a system to prioritize who you should help first.
And no you can't help everyone. (Not immediately.) you also can't go back and make decisions in hindsight. You have to have a system that helps the rescuers help the greatest number as quickly as possible, but those who need help the most.
You can't look at the decision as just one person. One victim would take one crew and one apparatus out of service. Taking care of only one person wouldn't have as much of an impact on operations as many. But there were victims literally scateree across the airfield. There were already many, many victims that were very sick. Some number were carried away, others assisted, possibly others collapsed further from the airplane. Unfortunately, this victim couldn't get herself to where the sick were being treated and neither did anyone else. This left behind were left fir dead OR were very brave firefighters who were ridking their lives. Their primary responsibility was to put out the fire. An explosion could kill firefighters, rescuers and additional passengers.
Being only one person warps the expectations. But if there were 15 'bodies' needing immediate life saving treatment, and 9 fire apparatus, and you expected them to stop for and save 'every life' all the fire apparatus would've been side tracked and not available for their primary fire suppression duties.
Both were very critical and time sensitive. The girl needed medical care or she would die. The fire needed to be put out so the plane wouldn't explode, so that rescuers could approach and help any victims that were left behind.
While she was visible, they took care not to further injure her. When she became covered with foam, unfortunately accidents happened.
The available resources couldn't take care of all 300 victims at once. You must have a system to prioritize who you should help first.
And no you can't help everyone. (Not immediately.) you also can't go back and make decisions in hindsight. You have to have a system that helps the rescuers help the greatest number as quickly as possible, but those who need help the most.
You can't look at the decision as just one person. One victim would take one crew and one apparatus out of service. Taking care of only one person wouldn't have as much of an impact on operations as many. But there were victims literally scateree across the airfield. There were already many, many victims that were very sick. Some number were carried away, others assisted, possibly others collapsed further from the airplane. Unfortunately, this victim couldn't get herself to where the sick were being treated and neither did anyone else. This left behind were left fir dead OR were very brave firefighters who were ridking their lives. Their primary responsibility was to put out the fire. An explosion could kill firefighters, rescuers and additional passengers.
Being only one person warps the expectations. But if there were 15 'bodies' needing immediate life saving treatment, and 9 fire apparatus, and you expected them to stop for and save 'every life' all the fire apparatus would've been side tracked and not available for their primary fire suppression duties.
Both were very critical and time sensitive. The girl needed medical care or she would die. The fire needed to be put out so the plane wouldn't explode, so that rescuers could approach and help any victims that were left behind.
While she was visible, they took care not to further injure her. When she became covered with foam, unfortunately accidents happened.
I think you are going from the specific to the general and go beyond my point. I do not consider that triage in a mass casualty situation as in this incident as offensive or inexcusable. While not wandering into a philosophical discussion of traditional innate human values, I will say that what I find objectionable is the attorney's action here. I see it as similar to suing on behalf of the child not selected in Sophie's Choice.