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Bell V-22 Osprey (16-5843) - Smokey startup for VMM-264, Black Knights, who would eventually have to leave one bird behind due to maintenance issues.
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Bell V-22 Osprey (16-5843)

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Smokey startup for VMM-264, Black Knights, who would eventually have to leave one bird behind due to maintenance issues.


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A dog and a lemmon of a flying machine. 20+ years into its induction and still won't meets its original contractual performance and reliabilith specifications. And yes, it still it will be Marine 1 in the not too distant future.
Robert Cowling
I remember the startup of that type. It was a disaster. Driven by Congress, and a maintenance disaster. I kept hearing that the military never wanted it, but was nearly forced to because of political pork project appetite. Sad...
Gavin Hughes
Looks like a clapped out diesel or gas engine start! To the aircraft type itself, a good idea, but as Robert says, pushed and pushed until it got into service, good or bad.
a mentor
clearly a bad/unsafe design
Matt Lacey
Not an unsafe design. NASA proved the technology with the XV-15 in the 70s. The DoD screwed up the program with schedule pressure leading to bad training and bad maintenance. I'd almost like the DoD to drop the aircraft from its inventory so the private sector can restore its reputation.
a mentor
sorry there @Matt; imo you've been drinking the coolade again. Painfully obvious that any engine out condition is unrecoverable -- the V22 is inherently unstable and unsafe.
And people wonder why some Maine flight crew appear stoned-immaculate sometimes.
In spite of the negative comments, the V-22 Osprey does fly and can serve well in a peace-time role.
The lack of range is the Osprey's greatest weakness.
I've heard more complaints about VOQs from Marines than I have about flying their Ospreys.
Complements to Matt Lacey above for setting everybody straight about the Ospreys feasibility, and, the apparently unfairly leveled criticism of this incredible flying machine.
BTW, are pilots rated both in Fixed Wing and Rotary Wing aircraft to fly the Osprey?
That would be a very positive advantage if they are (for real).
Robert Mills Jr. Perhaps (both fixed & rotary rating), but this beast cannot do a fixed-wing landing, so I'd prioritize the rotary-wing rating. Anyway flying a rotary-wing after transition is quite like flying a fixed-wing anyway. Oh, wait, all rotary-wing pilots solo fixed first... Forget the fixed-wing only folks, I'll take my swing-wing pilots every time. (Old Huey crew-chief bias)
Frank Fornari
I would agree with Matt that the XV-15 was a great and solid proof of concept. The execution after that has been a struggle but I still believe the the concept is solid.
Alan Stultz
@skylab72 technically it can do a fixed wing landing, once. Thanks for your service chief.
Sorry there @a mentor - the engines are connected by hard driveshafts, and either engine can drive both prop rotors. Performance is degraded, but they do not fall out of the sky when an engine shells.
a mentor
Well I'll always bow to someone with first-hand knowledge @adelima, but honestly strongly doubt a rotating shaft between the two nacelles running the entire wingspan.
a mentor
Well, apologies to @adelima; the wiki say:

V-22 pilot Captain Justin "Moon" McKinney stated that: "We can turn it into a plane and glide it down, just like a C-130."[59] A complete loss of power requires both engines to fail, as one engine can power both proprotors via interconnected drive shafts.[77]
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