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Hailstorm Seriously Damages AirEuropa Plane Traveling From Madrid to Buenos Aires

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... On September 9th, an AirEuropa Airbus A330 flying into Argentina’s Ezeiza Airport encountered a serious hailstorm in the last 20 minutes of a 12-hour flight, theblaze.com reports. (www.wunderground.com) Mais...

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jwragley
Jay Ragley 2
If you search for "Ricardo Cirielli twitter" you can access his twitter account and see the pictures. The nose of the A330 is shredded.
preacher1
preacher1 1
Most all that's in the story if folks would just take time to read it before they start asking questions. Last I remember, that is why they are posted.I knew about the nose cone without having to go into the twitter account because I read the story.
jwragley
Jay Ragley 2
But no pictures of the nose cone in the story. Pictures add to the story.
hfrankallen
frank allen 2
Many years ago a DC-9 ran into large hail over Georgia and lost both engines. The plane was at an altitude that would have allowed it to make Dobbins AFB without power but it unexplainedly executed a 360 degree turn which used up so much altitude it had to put down on a highway in a small town resulting in multiple fatalities.
chalet
chalet 2
Weren´t the pilots briefed before departing or say two hours before landing about this ominous weather so they could consider landing at an alternate airport to wait it out. Beviating right or left for 30-50 miles or whatever and then resume is not an option in this particular route because the 330s land at Buenos Aires with just the bare legal mínimum fuel in normal conditions.
WALLACE24
WALLACE24 1
Isn't that scenario called painting yourself into a corner??
chalet
chalet 1
Absolutely
preacher1
preacher1 1
Well, the story did say something about no way to deviate.
chalet
chalet 1
Hard to believe that they could not deviate along a 6,600 miles route
preacher1
preacher1 2
I agree although somewhere in the story or one of the comments here somewhere I was reading that those Madrid flights came in sucking on fumes. That said, I don't know if ICAO has the FAA ETOPS standards in place or not, but it doesn't sound like it.
chalet
chalet 1
Standards are being followed in fact there have been a number of cases where 330s bound for Buenos Aires from European cities have landed at Rio or other cities due to higher than expected fuel burn. This is no different from west-bound UAL, DL and American 757s landing at Goose Bay and other airports in Newfoundland all the time after crossing the Atlantic when strong headwinds call for caution.
preacher1
preacher1 1
Well, I wasn't there, but I would hope that 20 minutes out I could do something to let that thing kinda pass. That will spoil your day in a hurry. LOL
bartsolari
Bart Solari 1
no alternate?

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bbburroughs
Bevan Burroughs 1
I wonder if the airline pays for laundry service.
preacher1
preacher1 1
doubtful but they ought to. LOL
AABABY
AABABY 1
Hey, preacher1: On another storyline, Southwest is changing livery. I wonder if you would know what the load factor is for painted vs unpainted exterior. Weight in pounds per gallon dry and what fuel factors would be considered.
Sorry to be off subject, but I consider you to have a wide range of knowledge.
stevooz
steve rogers 1
you know how pilots say this is the best job in the world , well ...not that day .
bartsolari
Bart Solari 1
it's the "best job in the world" until it's Contract Time!
gregoryheld
Greg Held 1
I read the story and I would still like to see pictures
bbburroughs
Bevan Burroughs 1
Found a short video of this on weather.com.

http://www.weather.com/special/great-outdoors/video/nature-strikes-a-plane-in-flight-53591?collid=/video-minutes/great-outdoors
canuck44
canuck44 1
Thanx....I guess I am a visual person and needed that. This doesn't look like it would disrupt the aerodynamics a great deal, but if the windshields looked the same way, it would make the last few hundred feet a little unnerving.

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WALLACE24
WALLACE24 2
When you are doing 200+ kits it would be obvious where the hail would hit the plane regardless of direction.
THRUSTT
THRUSTT 2
Cyclonic hail has a tendency to approach from the front, swing around, and smack from the back... Hence exhaust and tailcone damage...
WALLACE24
WALLACE24 7
Is that called taking it in the ass???
AABABY
AABABY 2
That would be the New "golf ball" exterior. Golf balls have dimples to allow for higher speeds. The dimples are actually helpful in adding distance and velocity.
Since the damage has been done, why not do some flight testing? Interesting.
A few years ago, Lexus tried it on the underbody of some models. I don't know what the outcome for that experiment was. It was supposed to reduce drag under the car.

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preacher1
preacher1 4
read the story
THRUSTT
THRUSTT 2
joeScars
Joe Raio 0
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Hailstorm Seriously Damages AirEuropa Plane

Passengers aboard a harrowing transatlantic flight from Madrid to Buenos Aires might be kissing the ground this week. On September 9th, an AirEuropa Airbus A330 flying into Argentina’s Ezeiza Airport encountered a serious hailstorm in the last 20 minutes of a 12-hour flight, theblaze.com reports.

http://www.weather.com/travel/hail-damages-aireuropa-plane-buenos-aires-20140912?cm_ven=FB_TRAVEL_JB_91615_20

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WALLACE24
WALLACE24 2
Why? You're prolly right.

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