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Rather long flight in a Cessna 206

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Noticed this 15 hour flight en-route on Flightaware. Long time to sit in a Cessna. He will be landing in the dark. (flightaware.com) Mais...

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Moviela
Ric Wernicke 8
So who knew a Cessna 206 had ETOPS?
WALLACE24
WALLACE24 2
It glides to the nearest wave???
dtw757
mike SUT 2
Flew P-3's out of NAS Barbers Pt in the early '80's. Flew 2 flights where we sat on top of a single engine ferries that went in the drink short of HI due to engine or fuel issues, one TA-4J out from VC-1 that went in on a TransPac to California. All survived but got wet. One other flight out of NAS Moffet Fld in CA, we "pointed" a Cessna 172 who's Loran failed and he tried following contrails to get to HI. He was at 3000 ft and following a contrail to Anchorage when he lost site of it. Pure luck in seeing us doing our thing off the coast. He made it back to the West Coast. One stupid but lucky individual. Coast Guard C-130 led him back the last couple of hundred miles.
Maxepay
Max Mueller 2
Check flightaware for PA46 N915C last week.
bidgee
Robert Myers 2
At first glance, I almost thought that it could've been an incorrect airport code or registration used but very likely to be using extra fuel tanks.

I've seen codes used in Australia (some of which are unofficial) most of which don't exist as official codes but sometimes there is a code used that is an official airport coded used outside of Australia. Also seen callsigns used that are linked to an overseas airline but has no connection to it what so ever. Example: https://flightaware.com/live/flight/WAL271 (WAL271) World Atlantic "WORLD ATLANTIC" is in fact Wagga Air/Mabena Pty Ltd [http://flightaware.com/live/flight/VHEJE]. Though was a little funny seeing VH-OVS (http://flightaware.com/live/flight/VHOVS/history/20140206/0518Z/YMAY/YXWG) flight plan's to YXWG (a code for an emergency helipad at a local sports ground, though the official name is Wagga Hospital http://www.airservicesaustralia.com/aip/current/ersa/LND__14-Nov-2013.pdf).
WALLACE24
WALLACE24 2
Drug runners got really good at it. Back in the day when thousands were trying their hand at it someone abandoned a DC 3 at my local field after the drop went sour at a field about 50 miles away. This thing had brand new engines, props, and landing gear. Inside were 2 500 gal stainless tanks. Also, 2 55 gal drums of oil with lines run to engines so they could add on the go. Pilot had coolers full of food and drink. Of course the Feds had it locked up but that didn't stop us. Lol. Sat here bout 2 months before they flew it away. Had come non stop from Columbia to here in Ky.
mattpilla
Matt Pilla Autor 2
Yep...these ferry flights can be crazy_long...and the 206 is robust and able to go pretty much anywhere with enough juice!
carlosgevaerd
Carlos Gevaerd 2
Because I was pilot ages ago, and as I could with aircraft of this size was a distance of 1000 km in exactly 5 hours with a cessna 172.
So I'm not worried but curious anyway because it is an amazing fact, no matter what form it took.
But I believe that there are only two ways to be such a feat possible, through additional wing tanks or inside the aircraft or supply of some islands in the path if possible landing. I am grateful for your opinion.
GuamPilot
Michael Wendt 1
There are NO airports (or islands) between Hawaii and the West Coast.

You can't build enough fuel tanks into the wings. You need either external fuel tanks (hanging off the wing or belly, but either would require very expensive FAA certification) or fuel tanks in the cabin.

Installing ferry tanks in the cabin is the usual way these long ferry flights are accomplished. While there is nothing "cheap" in aviation, ferry tanks in the cabin is the cheapest way to do it.
Moviela
Ric Wernicke 3
YES there is an airport and island between Hawai'i and the West Coast. Landed there many times. The natives are friendly, English is widely spoken, and they take dollars. It's called Catalina.
GuamPilot
Michael Wendt 1
Okay, yes, you are right about Catalina.

And there are a number of other islands just off the West Coast (might even be able to find a few with an airport.)

But there are no islands with airports that are in a useful place for a Cessna 206 flying between Hawaii and the West Coast (including Catalina.)
Moviela
Ric Wernicke 1
I know. I was just having a giggle.
rsmath
rsmath 1
that kind of flight (and the comments here) remind me of a TV show that was on the Weather Channel or some other cable network about a Florida company who provided the service of getting these types of planes to where they were needed. One might a buyer in the Middle East or Europe who needed his plane brought to him, another might have been a flight school in Africa who needed planes. The florida outfit would modify the planes with tanks for extra fuel capacity and then some young guy would fly them the longhaul to their new owners. I don't know if the dangerousness of the task -- especially encountering weather over the Atlantic Ocean -- was manufactured by the show producers to create drama or if modifying these planes and flying them long-haul was actually that dangerous.
umritter
Uwe Ritter 2
The program you're describing is called "Dangerous Flights", I too have watched it numerous times. Talk about some insane flights like delivering a Cessna 172 to Poland from Rhode Island
mustangjosh350
mustangjosh350 1
saw a error on here that a Cessna that took a 25 hr flight from an local airport to an airport in north east part of South America.
daveblevins52
Dave Blevins 1
Why aren't little planes like this delivered inside a cargo plane ?
GuamPilot
Michael Wendt 1
Little is relative. A Cessna 206 is 28 feet 3 inches long with a wing span of 36 feet.

The Antonov AN-225 is the largest general purpose cargo plane ever built and it can accommodate a maximum width of 20 feet. A 206 won't fit.

Plus these huge cargo planes are expensive. I really have no way to know but I'd guess the AN-225 is $15,000 to $20,000 an hour. Hawaii to the West Coast is about 5 hours. Plus you have to pay to position the AN-225 to Hawaii at the same hourly cost.

Since a used 206 is worth $100,000 to $200,000 you quickly exceed the value of the Cessna.
rgoubitz
rgoubitz 1
And 2 days later he flew from Honolulu to Lanai? Doesn't add up.
rgoubitz
rgoubitz 1
Well I stand corrected, FlightAware now shows his flight back as well so I guess he really did it...
MultiComm
MultiComm 1
Well, at least they went somewhere.

I once flew a aerial survey flight for 6.8 hours (Hobbs) and didn't go much past 50 nm! Had to survey some 15 sites all around Atlanta. Hit every quadrant around ATL from Caterville to Forest Park and then completed the journey in Macon, GA. That was only leg ONE for the day.

After the fuel stop (food and AvGas), we preceded over to Columbus and then down to Brunswick to for the night.
carlosgevaerd
Carlos Gevaerd 1
If this flight was non stop. How to get the refuel? Changed the wing with aditional tank?
rwb2112
rwb2112 4
Ferry tanks http://www.turtlepac.com/products/collapsible-aircraft-ferry-tanks.html
pilot62
Scott Campbell 2
Great link - thanks !
grinch59
Gene Nowak 2
Agreed! Furthermore, checking FAA records appear to show he just bought the plane on December 12th and is ferrying it back home. Must have been one pilot and a huge ferry tank since he was battling headwinds all the way home.
bbrsox
Ben Ryan 1
I'm almost 100% positive this was a ferry flight. Not only would you not have the range without additional tanks, no one in their right mind would fly a 206 for 16 and a half hours. I also remember reading something about one of the small airlines over their buying a few more 206s or 208s.
karterhickling
Karter Hickling 0
Why would you bother?
linbb
linbb 2
Worked for Robertson Aircraft out of Seattle back in the late 60s early 70s. We used to have ferry pilots take C180,185,206 aircraft quite often on ferry flights. They would add tanks inside, ship the extra seat to the destination. They also added an oil tank that they could on a timed basis add oil to the engine. They would go to HI then to the Philippines and then on don't remember all but lost two over the span of five years, just didn't get there never found.
linbb
linbb 1
Oh the reason, it was cheaper than shipping them which we did also, took them apart and put them in a box to be loaded on a ship. To take them apart and get ready for shipping took longer and probably cost as much as flying sometimes but you cant always fly due to no fuel stops.
clipper759
joe johnson 1
Did it pay well Boyd?

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