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Person dies after falling into engine of departing passenger jet

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Aperson died Wednesday after falling into the spinning turbine blades of a departing passenger jet at Amsterdam's Schiphol airport, officials said. The death occurred on the apron outside the busy hub's terminal as a KLM flight was ready to depart for Billund in Denmark. "An... incident took place at Schiphol today during which a person ended up in a running aircraft engine," Dutch flagship carrier KLM said in a statement. "Sadly the person has died," KLM said,… (www.msn.com) More...

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mbrews
mbrews 23
Update from news sources-

On May 30th 2024 Koninklijke Marechaussee, Royal Military Police, announced:

"An incident occurred on the tarmac at Schiphol on Wednesday afternoon in which a man fell into the running engine of an aircraft and died. The aircraft had just completed the pushback procedure and was about to taxi to the runway.

The deceased man has been identified. The victim worked at a company at the airport. Investigation showed that he deliberately climbed into the engine. This is a case of suicide. Out of compassion for the victim and the surviving relatives, we will not make any further announcements."
yatesd
yatesd 10
That was also the case with a recent Delta flight where a baggage handler committed suicide in San Antonio. Sad for the individual and traumatizing for pax and crew.
sparkie624
sparkie624 9
I find it hard to even consider suicide and to do so with an Aircraft Engine is just beyond belief or imagination.
KentHeaton
Kent Heaton 7
People do not fall into an airplane engine! Just like people don't sit underneath a car. Bad journalism.
mbrews
mbrews 4
Probably a quirk of translation . It might surprise some that English is not the native language in Amsterdam where the police report was written. Just re-read the police report. Substitute the word “ jumped “ for “fell “ if you prefer.
KentHeaton
Kent Heaton 3
Also, it wasn't departing, it was pushing back from the gate. The headline makes it sound like someone fell into the engine while it was taking off. Typical clueless reporter trying to glorify the event.
AWAAlum
AWAAlum 0
It has to push back to depart.
KentHeaton
Kent Heaton 0
Exactly, two totally different things. Push back is not departing. It's pushing back.
AWAAlum
AWAAlum 0
Come on According to your thinking, taxiing isn't departing , it's taxiing. It's all parts of a departure.
greerbk
Greer Kemp 1
Um... what if you were taxiing to the gate after landing...?
sparkie624
sparkie624 1
That is kind of a Stretch... When we send a plane out to the runway to go somewhere, they Taxi out for Departure... On my plane, when I am on the ramp and call ground, I request Clearance to Taxi to the active runway. Once they do that, then I taxi per the printed instructions on the taxi chart or follow the specific instructions of the controller... Once I am at the end of the runway and complete my checks, I then call for takeoff clearance... Sometimes I may advise them before I get there that I will be ready at the end! It is not a take off until you are cleared for take off (at a controller airport) or once you announce intentions to do so after checking traffic and then turning on to the active runway.
AWAAlum
AWAAlum 0
Sparkie - I'm not debating the process - I'm simply stating all of these actions are part of a departure. Departure begins when the plane "departs" the terminal.
KentHeaton
Kent Heaton 1
On that rational (push back) is part of arrival too!
sparkie624
sparkie624 0
We will have to agree to Disagree!
KentHeaton
Kent Heaton 0
Not from a pilots point of view.
sparkie624
sparkie624 -1
Not necessarily... It could Power Back, even though this would not be the norm, I have done it on many occasions and it is legal!
AWAAlum
AWAAlum 0
Either way, all part of departure. Plus, that isn't the point Heaton was attempting to make.
sparkie624
sparkie624 0
Yes, but people have fallen into Aircraft Propellers before... It is on record and is usually a terminal event! Like one guy hand propping a plane solo, It kicked over and went out of control and right over him.
LeanderWilliams
Leander Williams 5
I have never understood why some of the people who want to commit suicide pick the most horrible methods to take their lives. I live in California and I have heard of the many people who jump off the Golden Gate Bridge, but for someone to walk into an aircraft engine that has to be like a log being fed into a wood chipper. Condolences to the victim's families. It's sad that people who commit suicide may have ended their troubled lives, but have no concept of the torn up family members they leave behind.
AWAAlum
AWAAlum 3
I lived in San Francisco and an interesting fact about those suicides off the bridge - not one of them jumped facing away from the city.
LeanderWilliams
Leander Williams 0
Wow. Of all the suicides that happened in the years that I lived in Oakland, I either never heard that or didn't put 2 and 2 together. Have you ever seen the documentary "The Bridge"? It was on YouTube until someone caused it to be removed. It covered some of the people who jumped, and it had some actual footage of suicides off the bridge.
sparkie624
sparkie624 3
WOW.. that is a hard way to go.. Hard to imagine. Thanks for sharing that information.
jkeifer3
Joe Keifer 5
When I worked at RIC, I saw the aftermath of a ground worker losing situational awareness and walking into the rotating prop of a twin engine high wing aircraft.
Jpbou
jean-paul Bouchard 6
c, est terrible
thenotoriousrob
rob strong -3
Oui oui, no bueno
saru308
Gail Peterson 2
Condolences to his family and friends. So very sad.
AWAAlum
AWAAlum 2
(On a personal note, your name gave me a start - my sister's name was Gail Peterson.)
saru308
Gail Peterson 1
Wow, now that's a coincidence.
SBarrington
Stone Barrington 1
By chance are you in the golf business?
vegaloempia
Sandra Hazenberg 3
Its clear what happened it was sadly a suicide by a employee?
vegaloempia
Sandra Hazenberg 0
Ah I see there was already an explanation about the situation.
Atlaspc12
Richard Rice 3
I do not believe how anyone could FALL into a jet engine on a taxiway! Most jet engines lowest part is up to my chin! News writers are distorting the facts!!!
sparkie624
sparkie624 4
That was an ERJ190 or 195 that he fell into.. the Engine is pretty close to the ground, it is conceivable and possible!
alexa320
alex hidveghy 5
If the engine is turning, you don’t “fall in to it” you get SUCKED IN! It ain’t rocket science, folks! Doesn’t anyone know how turbofans work?!……
sparkie624
sparkie624 3
It kind of depends, but yes, you are correct. Many at idle are not producing anything, but they still Suck... (Air that is, and sometimes Debris that regretfully can be people)
greerbk
Greer Kemp 1
As someone mentioned above, the word "fall" is likely to simply be a mistranslation or inaccurate translation from the Dutch police report.
SBarrington
Stone Barrington 1
Clearly @RichardRice does...

...did you not read what he posted?
greerbk
Greer Kemp 1
That is terribly sad. There is always a better way than this. My heartfelt condolences to his family, colleagues and friends.
6686L
Peter F. Hartmann Esq. -9
C'mon...folks....modern journalism's function is to move product. Getting info accurate? What for? As our culture hurtles further down to third world status, cool, dispassionate analytical thinking will accomplish nothing but get you branded as a racist. Objective is to get the reader interesting enough in the story long enough to stay for the next series of commercials.
segulin
Tim Segulin 21
With respect Peter I think you may be getting your news from the wrong sources. There are plenty of fine journalists out there whose calling is to convey the facts.

Not likely too many are familiar with gas turbine architecture though.

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hvdctom
Tom Snyder 12
News today is no longer about the facts but about who gets the story out the fastest and first. No time for research or fact checking.

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AirplaneC
C J 10
It's not that you're inaccurate (though it does remain comical that you're here complaining about poor writing when you're the one using "point in case". Also, why do you capitalize seemingly random words?), it's that you're being unrealistic. For the average person reading an article on CBS's website, what you're pointing out is 100% meaningless. The story is someone got sucked into a jet engine and died. That's it. End of story. Nobody cares about the positioning of turbine blades within the structure of the engine...which is exactly why news organizations don't have specialized authors for each and every topic that comes up. If they did, they'd have a million people on staff most of whom would be so deep on the spectrum regarding their topic that they wouldn't know how to form a complete sentence (cough cough).
sparkie624
sparkie624 -7
Enjoy the laugh on me... But it is still more factual than the article!
AirplaneC
C J 2
haha I do genuinely appreciate you being a good sport about that! All in good fun.
sparkie624
sparkie624 -8
There is a big difference between an article online or a news paper. The article is flawed regardless of what news says. Statistically, the news media has no real knowledge of aviation and reports on it anyway, making some of the most absurd statements that makes no sense... As noted, there is a Huge difference between Compressor Blades and Turbine Blades. The Media made it sound like he climbed into the front of the engine and climbed to the back of the engine.. Again, very very poor reporting with no research of facts. In Aviation, the news media is pretty laughable.
AirplaneC
C J 8
I don't disagree with you, I just don't think that there should be an expectation that a "blurb" article like this will drive someone to deeply research the architecture of a jet engine. If anything, I'd say the takeaway from something like this is that you simply can't believe every detail of what you read, whether it's aviation related or not.
sparkie624
sparkie624 -7
That much is certain... There are very very few good aviation writers and I have seen some great articles... I believe that to write an article (especially one that makes people believe it is fact) to be trained and be held accountable for their comments. I just get sick and tired of seeing bad aviation articles that make us good Pilots and Mechanics look bad. My original comment was meant to have humor, playing on the stupidity of the person who wrote the article in the first place. I will be honest with you... On these new CFM Engines, falling into the "Turbine Blades", you would have to Narrow and Thin and no more than 50 lbs and then it would be pushing it... that area has no room. Of course I knew they meant the fan, but I just played on their stupidity... Not many people have held an actual Turbine blade.. I have... They are not that big, and not that heavy... Compressor blades and the Fan Blades (different parts). The Compressor Blades compresses the air to the engine, into the Burner Can, Mixes Atomized Fuel in it and it ignites and blows it out the tailpipe making the blades spin even faster! A Jet engine does the same exact thing as a Recip engine in your Vehicle and to state it like my Power Plant instructor from 40+ years ago, calls it a "Suck, Squeeze, Bang, and Blow Machine". It Sucks Air in, Compresses, Mixes it with Fuel, and Lites the fire, and Blows it out the Tail Pipe... Super Simple.
AWAAlum
AWAAlum 2
I wonder if you labeling the writer of the article as being stupid, several times, isn't a tad harsh. Perhaps ignorant, as in ignorant of the acts, might be more appropriate, and also kinder. I don't imagine every news article that crosses their desk would play into an individual's field of expertise and so, they do their best with the data they're fed. In an industry that does, in fact, rely heavily on being first, the writer is facing performing a yeoman's job ...the phrase associated with work that doesn't require specialized skills and can be done well by tackling the task industriously.
WhiteKnight77
WhiteKnight77 1
We Marine rotorheads have a phrase for fast movers. Suck and blows.
6686L
Peter F. Hartmann Esq. -3
not laughable - news media is doing its present job - getting the general public's attention so they can sell stuff. Advertisers couldn't care less what is said, so long as the "ratings" confirm their product gets maximum exposure. Like it or not - that's modern "journalism"...!
sparkie624
sparkie624 1
Too bad people can take the Truth! Oh well!
MikeA01730
Michael Albert 2
It depends what you read. I read the New York Times and the Wall Street Journal. Everything they write online or in print is carefully fact checked and if they make an error they issue a retraction. If you want accurate reporting just read accurate and reliable news sources.
CHRISMORGAN
CHRIS MORGAN 4
It depends on what you read !! All papers tend to have a bias, they include facts that support their case, and leave out those that don't. That's not to say they are inaccurate, they just present their views in the best possible light.
mbrews
mbrews 3
welcome to an apparent first time posting. I chose to add some messages above, from the Dutch military police, when the facts became more clear. IMO, it’s not just the facts, but also which facts these publications choose to report ( or not report)
SBarrington
Stone Barrington 1
Now THAT is FUNNY!!! Hahahaha...
thenotoriousrob
rob strong 1
greerbk
Greer Kemp 1
I would say that they fairly obviously meant he allowed himself intentionally to be sucked into the intake and was killed by the spinning blades - if they had said that, it would have been less of a target - but as we know, journalists usually are unaware of the intricacies of an aircraft engine, so we can allow some leeway... their target audience will not, for the most part, be any better informed on this technology. :)
cyberjet
cyberjet 0
Hyperbole and hypocrisy clearly elude some people. Case in point.
linbb
linbb -9
As bad as your attempt to write something too. The obvious is there so what.
AirplaneC
C J -9
oooof...when linbb is (correctly) calling you out, you know it's time to reevaluate your life.
DC8PIC
DC8PIC -6
Accuracy? Just watch and listen. How many of these highly "educated" and "professional" members of the media can't even pronounce the simple word "temperature" correctly on radio and TV?????
hwh888
hwh888 -1
I just seems crazy this is happening. Are not those in charge of operations teaching and hammering into heads YOU DO NOT GO NEAR ANY INLET of a jet engine, Period. Thre is no sensible reason for these type of accidents.
hwh888
hwh888 3
It’s now been reported this person committed suicide.
LSUMBA
LSUMBA -9
I applaud his success. The ones who try and fail are truly annoying
WillyRoss
Bill Ross -4
As are you, you ass
LSUMBA
LSUMBA -7
Takes one to know one, keyboard cowboy
AWAAlum
AWAAlum 2
Are you actually a 7-year-old pretending to be an adult?

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thenotoriousrob
rob strong 5
Nothing to do with aviation. Go back to your news rags.
jkeifer3
Joe Keifer 4
Gee, with so many downvotes I just should have kept my mouth shut!
21voyageur
21voyageur 9
correct. Not the place.
AWAAlum
AWAAlum 1
Bingo.

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