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NTSB: Pilot's actions likely caused Earnhardt plane crash

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A pilot's inability to maintain proper airspeed and the flight crew's decision to continue an unstable approach and landing likely caused the crash of a small plane carrying race car driver Dale Earnhardt Jr. and his family in 2019, according to a National Transportation Safety Board report released Wednesday. The NTSB's final accident report points to actions by the pilot and co-pilot in the Aug. 15, 2019 plane crash at an airport in Elizabethton, Tennessee. Earnhardt was with… (www.yahoo.com) Mais...

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royalbfh
royalbfh 12
"I don't need to tell you that we are really fast"
"Should I go around?"
"No."
Really hard to believe that with this unstable of a visual approach that they didn't just come around and do it right. Very glad that no one was seriously injured, could have been so much worse.
idgie57
idgie57 4
Or even divert to Tri-Cities, where you have a lot more runway to work with.
bbabis
bbabis 4
Or, just enter downwind and land the way they should have landed in the first place.
bighubs311
William Bryan 12
I don’t know the pilots’ experience and background but everywhere I’ve worked flying jets so far, when the thrust reversers come open you have decided to land and you get what you get after. Trying to stow the reversers and then wait for TOGA power to come in will take forever and you’re eating up a lot of runway really fast at that speed. Those guys need a lot of retraining at minimum before they should be allowed to carry passengers again.
royalbfh
royalbfh 6
there were several wrong decisions, trying to hurry the approach, continuing that approach, which caused it to be unstable, not going around prior to touchdown, not deploying the speedbrake at touchdown, then attempting a go around after the TR's were deployed. It says in the POH not to attempt to go around once the TR's have been deployed. they made some bad decisions.
JedFR
JedFR 9
Pilot Richard Pope told the NTSB that he was carrying extra speed on the approach to the runway because ''if you ain't first, you're last,'' according to a summary of the pilots' statements to the NTSB.
PKVol
Patrick Keohane 2
Sweet baby Jesus
stansdds
Sounds like the pilot had a case of get-there-itis. He was going to land the first time, regardless.
Quirkyfrog
Robert Cowling 2
There is a great drive to 'get there'. Often 'there' isn't the there they had in mind.
DTBMF
Daniel Gless 1
He did....
bentwing60
bentwing60 3
three bounces like that and you would be in the same place in a 172, just a smaller, less ballyhood fire.
jhakunti
Jayden Hakunti 3
what happens to the pilots?
KoolerKT
KoolerKT 3
Maybe it's time to move on.
DTBMF
Daniel Gless 1
Uber is always looking for 'pilots'.
bingoair
Markus Wolff 2
"Any landing you walk away from is a good one" So happy that no one died. As far as the landing, I hate to sit here and arm chair quarterback this guy. I could imagine the pressure this guy is under to do everything right & everything fast. Had a lot of part 135 operators do that, pressure you into hurrying. Southwest did the same thing in Burbank with a 737, ended up right at the gas station. On a sunnier note, Id love to see the VHS video of his student pilot days.
jbsimms
James Simms 4
Very similar to Kobe Bryant’s incident, get-there-itis
Fprchief
Jerry Groendyke 2
But they didn't walk away! They ran!
Rpogatchnik
Ronald Pogatchnik 2
Walkers!
GAviator
JOHN WHITE 2
By eye witness, the first touchdown was about 5+G's with a big bounce over a third way down the RW. the landing gear was damaged the first IMPACT, not a touchdown.
The weather was good, wind on their nose. Came in high and fast impacted the RW then tried to force it on the ground which was successful if you consider a crash a successful landing. Just pure Amatures landing in a panic for no reason. It has auto throttles. Just select toga pitch it to 10, flaps to approach and all will be fine for another try. I call it "Get on the ground itis panic syndrome".
WhiteKnight77
WhiteKnight77 2
Sounds like the pilot needs more simulator time so as to be able to land at the proper speed.
GAviator
JOHN WHITE 2
By eye witness, the first touchdown was about 5+G's with a big bounce over a third way down the RW. the landing gear was damaged the first IMPACT not a touchdown.
The weather was good , wind on their nose. Came in high and fast impacted the RW then tried to force it on the ground which was successful if you consider a crash a successful landing. Just pure Amatures landing in a panic for no reason. It has auto throttles. Just select toga pitch it to 10, flaps to approach and all will be fine for another try. I call it "Get on the ground itis panic syndrome".
bbabis
bbabis 2
Even with their determination to land, Textron has stated that the aircraft would have stopped in the remaining runway after the first touchdown if the crew had used proper procedures of Speedbrakes, Wheel brakes, then thrust reverse.
bentwing60
bentwing60 1
The "NASCAR Airforce" has a 'safety record' that sorta mirrors their 'owners'!
WhiteKnight77
WhiteKnight77 1
Drivers rarely own the cars anymore. 30 years ago, that might have been true with drivers like J. D. McDuffie (who died in a race at Watkins Glen), but no driver completely owns the car they drive.
bentwing60
bentwing60 1
I flew a swept wing Citation for a guy that owned a battery company with a green label that you probably saw on a NASCAR 'hood' or two. So, we went to a couple a races. That didn't get me in the pits, unless I asked, but I did get to spend some time with a NASCAR pilot or two. Many of the 'Airplanes' are owned by the drivers, in one way or another, all of whom have wrecked a car or two!
WhiteKnight77
WhiteKnight77 1
Owning a plane does not necessarily means flying said plane. Also, see above as to team ownership.
jbsimms
James Simms 1
Alan Kulwicki won the ‘92 Championship as an Owner-Driver, but was killed 1 April, 93 in a plane crash belonging to Hooters. Davey Allison was killed & Red Farmer injured in the crash of Allison’s helicopter @ Talladega later in 1993.
WhiteKnight77
WhiteKnight77 1
I am not disputing the fact that drivers have died in crashes of aircraft, just that there are now no drivers that own their teams and cars. Drivers may be part ownerers now, but not wholly owned. Alan was one of the last to completely own the cars in which he drove. Kulwicki's plane, which was owned by Hooters, just like Earnhardt's crash of Jr.s owned plane, was flown by pilots other than the drivers.

Davey's crash was his fault, but he drove for Robert Yates and did not own the cars he drove. His wife did not really want Davey to fly that helicopter.
Rpogatchnik
Ronald Pogatchnik 2
Wankers!
RichardWaldren
Richard Waldren 1
Food for thought. Which is more embarrassing, having to make a go around with the boss on board because you are high and fast or busting his airplane? Remember you are the Ace of the base, except you spell it differently than I do.
Quirkyfrog
Robert Cowling 1
How do you tell someone you are sorry for breaking his plane and almost killing him, his wife, their kid, and dog! OMG! Especially in such a ridiculous way. Somehow 'I screwed up' doesn't come close.

And regarding the owner/drivers: With engines costing upwards of 30k, and having to have at least two, and various parts, and the frame and coverings costing more tens of thousands, the 'sport' as gotten out of hand. It's lost a great deal of its soul. It's sad, really. It more resembles 'big-time wrestling'. tragic.
linbb
linbb -8
Gee ya think? That was apparent when shown on the news. DUH

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