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This once-a-day flight from DFW Airport brings in over $400 million a year

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That daily Airbus A380 flight over North Texas is more than a photo opportunity for plane spotters -- it’s bringing in more than $400 million a year for Australian carrier Qantas. (www.dallasnews.com) Mais...

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Coalora
Coalora 28
A peek behind the paywall for you, friends:


This six-day-a-week flight from DFW Airport brings in over $400 million a year
International routes generate the most revenue for airlines, even with fewer flights.

By Kyle Arnold

7:00 AM on Oct 28, 2019

That Airbus A380 flight over North Texas six times a week is more than a photo opportunity for plane spotters — it’s bringing in more than $400 million a year for Australian carrier Qantas.

The DFW-to-Sydney flight is the highest-grossing flight from DFW International Airport, according to aviation data firm OAG. It’s one of nine flights that brought in more than a quarter-billion dollars between June 2018 and May of this year. It made $428 million for Qantas during the period.

The data from OAG shows exactly how lucrative those long-haul flights can be to carriers like Qantas and American Airlines. On Monday, American announced it will launch a new nonstop 15-hour flight from DFW Airport to Auckland, New Zealand, in October 2020.

It’s part of American’s growing strategy to connect U.S. passengers to the rest of the world through DFW.

Airlines have responded by adding more routes and seats for foreign-bound travelers. International traffic to and from DFW grew 30 percent between 2013 and 2018 to 8.74 million passengers, according to airport statistics.

Routes from DFW Airport to London and Tokyo can bring in as much revenue as flights to more frequent spots such as Los Angeles and Chicago. OAG doesn’t have data for Southwest Airlines, which doesn’t share its fare information as freely.

“The majority of the top 10 markets undoubtedly meet performance expectations, but it’s important to point out that highest-grossing doesn’t always equal highest profitability in the airline business,” said Will Berchelmann, director at Dallas-based Airline Data Inc. and Volaire Aviation Consulting. " In some situations, flights between an individual city-pair might lose money on a standalone basis, but they operate because of the positive revenue contribution they make to an airline’s network."

That’s the case for Qantas and American, which have a strong partnership and can use that Sydney to Dallas flight to connect passengers to hundreds of destinations in the U.S. and Australia.

Of course, the Qantas flight to Sydney has some advantages over competitors. First, it’s on an Airbus A380, one of the largest passenger airplanes in the world that can carry about 485 people. That’s nearly triple the passenger load of a 737. It’s also one of the longest nonstop flights in the world, taking 16 hours to fly to the Australian city.

The Qantas flight to the Land Down Under flies brings in about $628,000 per flight, nearly 3 times as much as higher-frequency routes to London Heathrow Airport or Los Angeles International.

American’s DFW-to-Heathrow route was the second-highest-grossing route with $421 million in revenue, but flying almost four times as often as the Sydney flight.

High-demand international routes are among the highest-grossing, at least per flight. The DFW-to-London flight brings in about $173,000 on each flight and DFW-to-Tokyo Narita Airport makes $197,000 per trip.

DFW’s most frequent flight, the American Airlines route to Los Angeles, ranked third with $324 million in revenue followed by American’s flight to Miami, with $317 million.

Another American hub in Charlotte was the fifth-highest grossing with $302 million in revenue.

“The bottom line is that the top-grossing markets are a reflection of the strong DFW hub, which has increasingly added more and more connecting passengers this year as American has expanded to over 900 daily flights,” Berchelmann said.
ruddyshaft
Brandon Buttersby 8
Doing God's work.
markdickinson
Mark Dickinson 24
Revenue. Not profit. Because it brings money in, doesn't necessarily mean its a lucrative. Have to have the cost side in as well.
joelwiley
joel wiley 3
This didn't come from a paywall:

"The cost of operating a commercial aircraft can be broken down into two main categories: airborne cost and ground cost. The airborne costs are the actual costs of flying the aircraft; the ground costs are the cost of the airframe, engine maintenance, as well as airport and hangar expenses."


"A more detailed look at Qantas Airways flight offers a better understanding of typical costs. On a 14-hour A380-800 flight from Sydney to Los Angeles, the airline expenditures amount to $305,735; $11,414 in food and drink, $12,625 in staff pay and $37,157 in airport taxes and navigation services, and around $244,539 in fuel to fly the 484 seat plane. On a Boeing 777-300ER flight from Sydney to Los Angeles, the airline spends a total of $190,422. $9,652 in food and drink, $9,653 in staff pay, $31,117 in airport taxes and navigation services, and over $140,000 in fuel to fly the 361 seat plane on the 14-hour journey."

Source:https://www.opshots.net/2015/04/aircraft-operating-series-aircraft-operating-expenses/
glen4cindy
Glen England 1
Something else to keep in mind, this link is from an article that was written 4 years ago, so the dollars and cents here would be those of 4 years ago. It mentions Jet-A costs of $1.21 a gallon. Jet-A is currently $5.25 per gallon but I'm fairly certain when you are Qantas or American Airlines buying thousands of gallons at once a pretty big discount is likely in order.
rapidwolve
rapidwolve 0
Don't forget maintenance costs...but if Qantas is making roughly $323,000 revenue per flight with A380, how much could they make using a triple 7 or A350?
joelwiley
joel wiley 1
Is the bird owned or leased? If owned, it makes send to use them on the higher revenue routes to offset the higher TCO. If leased, would it make sense to renew?
rapidwolve
rapidwolve 2
I was adding to your comment ie a D-Check, unless the "quoter" included that in cost of the airframe.Then added ,what I thot, was a logical question. If Qantas makes that revenue using a guzzler A380, how much could they make using a triple 7 or A350. For some reason, judging from the vote system, I presume those questions are not allowed to be asked.
joelwiley
joel wiley -3
If you select any number between 0 and 9, someone will down vote it. The dogs bark but the wagons roll on.

Would the net profit offset the costs of a warehousee whale?
rapidwolve
rapidwolve 2
I would think that would depend on how much was paid for said whale. Yes it would make perfect sense using, in this case the A380 whale, on a higher revenue run. Now I'm wondering about United's 787-9 run IAH to SYD
RECOR10
RECOR10 0
Please Mark, do not let the realities of a budget get into the delusions and assumptions of the masses. Simply, that does not work in the modern news cycle in the United States.

Plus, if I am not mistaken every time an A380 takes flight a few baby seals die.
greasemonkey
Larry White 4
Being as I live in n-w Arlington,Tx., I'm in the flight path of this magnificent a/c, has it's own distinctive roar. The schedule has changed since darkness comes sooner now,,arrival in early afternoon and departures after 8p.m. Texas time resulting in less sitting time at Terminal D. Also we visit Founder's Plaza, n.w. end DFW, few times a wk to 'spot' a/c. Bideing my time when we can make this journey to the "Land down-under".
jshhmr
josh homer 0
I love Founder's Plaza. We go a couple times a month. They just need bathrooms, and another spotting area on the South end of the airport.
KobeHunte
Kobe Hunte 2
(Duplicate Squawk Submitted)

Amazing: Qantas Makes Huge Profit On A380 Flight From Dallas To Sydney

With everyone talking about Project Sunrise, research flights, Dreamliners, and pickle forks, some standout performers in the Qantas stable sneak under the radar. One of those standout performers is QF7/8, the A380 Sydney – Dallas – Sydney service. In the year ending 30 June 2019, this six-day a week service made Qantas a lazy USD$428 million in revenue. In the same period, total revenue for Qantas international operations was USD$5.132 billion. Qantas flies to 27 destinations in 14 countries. Some cities, such as Auckland or Singapore, have multiple city pairings operated by Qantas. But this one route, a 17-hour nonstop slog in an aircraft many decry as uneconomic to operate, brought in over 8% of total revenue for Qantas’ international operations last year. That’s not bad for a route that raised some eyebrows when initiated back in 2011.

http://simpleflying.com/dallas-sydney-qantas/
ADXbear
ADXbear 2
Amazing $$$$$$
Braniff77
Braniff77 1
This Forbes article has the top ten routes globally. British Airways Heathrow-JFK is #1 with $1.16 Billion in revenue. The top US domestic route is United's EWR-SFO route, at $689 million.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/dominicdudley/2019/08/13/most-profitable-airline-routes/#479c517f6963
paulgilpin1953
paul gilpin 0
that may be true due to the revenue issue.
however.
if you look at the shear volume of traffic, LHR/JFK is nowhere to be found in, the top routes for butts in seats. something like thirty or some such.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_busiest_passenger_air_routes
Coalora
Coalora 1
Hrm, the reply box ate my careful formatting. Sorry for the mess.
MHarryE
Michael Enzmann 1
Is their revenue measure by actual passengers flown or by revenue seats available? Do airlines actually make numbers available outside their company as to profitability? Super for Qantas an AA if Qantas can fill every A380 with high revenue fliers. In the past I have seen some really attractive Qantas prices through non-Qantas sites so are discounted fares taken into consideration, discounted in order to fill?
exteuton
Wolfgang Holst 1
Have air freight revenues been factored in? These amount to a lot!
hogie65
Ian Hogarth 1
I don't think there is any freight revenue for Qantas. They need empty seats on the west bound journey just to get home. Occasional head winds necessitate a stop somewhere in the Pacific for more fuel, or Brisbane.
halmorris2
Hal Morris 1
And as a regular user of the flight alternatives were actively canvassed.

the flight was sensational and direct though the journey through US customs always added an additional 2-3 hours just getting to the desk..

regularly only 2/3 personnel on customs desks, long queues, poor air conditioning, always a greater than 2 hour slow progression inline..

maybe that has changed i the last 5 years??
Coalora
Coalora 1
Also, in addition, there is a chart embedded in the article I've reproduced below:

The routes that bring in the cash
The highest-grossing routes to and from DFW International Airport

Airline Route Total Est. Revenue Freq. Revenue per flight

Qantas DFW-Sydney $428.3 million 682 $ 627,962.93
American DFW-London Heathrow $420.6 million 2,428 $ 173,220.40
American DFW-Los Angeles $324.0 million 9,820 $ 32,993.49
American DFW-Miami $317.3 million 7,355 $ 43,138.75
American DFW-Charlotte $301.8 million 7,249 $ 41,637.77
American DFW-Chicago O'Hare $299.6 million 9,153 $ 32,731.18
American DFW-Phoenix $291.2 million 8,498 $ 34,271.99
American DFW-Tokyo Narita $288.6 million 1,460 $ 197,683.97
American DFW-Philadelphia $276.1 million 6,424 $ 42,973.29
American DFW-New York Laguardia $249.2 million 8,009 $ 31,115.15
jbsimms
James Simms -1
Nothing like a paywall....
kerimparrot
Mike Williams -5
Given any choice, I will not go back to Texass.
RECOR10
RECOR10 0
Texas is alright, just not Austin.

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