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Boeing withdraws contract offer after talks with union end without a deal
Boeing withdrew a contract offer for 33,000 machinists who have been on strike since mid-September, and said further negotiations “do not make sense at this point.” The machinists walked off the job on Sept. 13 after overwhelmingly rejecting a tentative labor deal, halting production of most of Boeing’s aircraft, which are made in the Puget Sound area. Boeing later sweetened the offer, increasing pay raises, a ratification bonus and other improvements, which the union turned down, arguing that… (www.msn.com) More...Sort type: [Top] [Newest]
That is something the union obviously failed to take into account. I recall about 20 years ago a labour dispute happened at a local mill where the company made a pretty good offer but the union turned it down. The workers went on strike and the mill closed and has never reopened.
Does this union think Boeing has no other choices?
Does this union think Boeing has no other choices?
My grandson work(ed) at Boeing and told me late last year or early this year that the union was planning a massive strike. The date was set quite a while back, and even if Boeing made an offer, they were going to strike period.
Why? That seems counter productive.
IT IS... It is more of making a statement than anything... Just 1 more reason why I don't like Unions!
I hear you. I worked in Labor Relations at America West and am painfully aware of union drawbacks.
One thing that I can say for sure, is that when I got out of a Union Environment, I am so much happier and everyone works together far better than with any Union that I have ever worked for... When I was working the Line and or Hangar after leaving a Union, the quality of everyone was so much better... Especially the Managers... Especially at SouthWest. Working without a Union, I make more, don't have to pay union Dues, At anytime I could go in and talk to any Supervisor or Manager and never had any kind of issue... I will never go back into the Union... Worst environment that I ever worked in. I am also making more and much much happier! The Unions did not get me more money, and I had to pay their dues... No Thank You!
Unions can have drawbacks but unions can provide protection for workers against unscrupulous companies. In this case both union and company management have dug their heels in and nothing will get agreed. A reasonable union can help the business. Chapter 11 beckons, sparkie!
"Chapter 11 beckons, sparkie!" - I agree... Once they do that, they can force the union members back to work, and even lower the wages if the Judge Agrees. The Company and Union will have to state there facts... But I still stand fast by my statement that I have been much happier not working in a Union Environment!
It is nice to see that we can agree on something.
Time is fast running out at Boeing and the longer the current dispute continues their chances of accessing further funding reduces.
Unless there is an agreement pretty quickly, there won't be any jobs at any hourly rate!!