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Airbus opens second A220 line as assemblies start at Mobile

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Airbus has started assembling A220s at its Alabama facility, a milestone coming after the European airframer announced its intention to open a US A220 manufacturing site. (www.airbus.com) Mais...

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jbsimms
James Simms 3
Roll Tide
SueLockwood
Sue Lockwood 3
As long as this is done to satisfy the tariff issue, leave remaining facilities operational and increase production to satisfy demand... Bombardier sold an excellent airplane to Airbus. It’s up to them now.
siriusloon
siriusloon 3
It's not being done to "satisfy the tariff issue" because Boeing lost the case and there are no tariffs to be satisfied. By winning the case, Bombardier and now Airbus didn't have to open the Alabama production line, but as the A220's popularity grows, I think both lines will be kept quite busy.
tyketto
Brad Littlejohn 3
Wrong tariff issue. Trump slapped tariffs on durable products, metals, etc., built in Europe and sold to the US-based companies because he would rather have them buy from the US (effectively giving that business to Boeing). Additionally, he slapped similar tariffs on Canada for the same thing.

Airbus basically gave him the finger, the proverbial Rage Against the Machine's "**** you, I won't do what you tell me", and got around the tariffs by building their aircraft in the US, so they circumvent all the work Trump did, making it backfire on him.
SueLockwood
Sue Lockwood 1
Not referring to the 292%..given the current climate I think the US government may try to add tariffs on materials sourced outside the country (since Alabama is an assembly plant.)
xtoler
Larry Toler 1
I've thought about that too. A lot of the materials to assemble the aircraft are overseas. Boeing does thecsame thing as well as Cessna. I used to supply after market and some OEM aircraft parts and there is a lot to go into it. Parts aren't just parts, everything has to be certified by not just the FAA, but by other countrys'government standards as well. Also a big deal was if same parts can or can't be used for military aircraft. Once you have all the paperwork in order, it's not a big deal to ship. Parts are not just parts though.
kevinkeswick
Kevin Keswick 3
As a Canadian whose tax dollars help develop the CSeries I hate to see 400 new jobs created in Alabama that should belong in Canada. Also I don't know what Airbus accomplishes with this. Much of the fuselage will be delivered pre-assembled from Canada. Forward, center and aft fuselage sections will be pre-assembled with all the wiring, piping, insulation, windows, air ducting, lavatories etc already pre-installed. All that needs to be done with the fuselage is join the three sections and install wall panels and furnishings. In the video on the Airbus site you can see how the major sections are already completely fitted out. In reality relatively little work will be done in Alabama and it will be mostly for show so they can say "Made in the USA"
airuphere
airuphere 3
Totally. And let’s not forget the CRJ program is now is Asia, at least the Q400 program is still here, as is the bizjets.
xtoler
Larry Toler 2
That's what they're doing with the A320 series. Good for my fellow Alabamians. As an aircraft enthusiast, it's a shame Bombardier sold out to Airbus for the C-series. Nothing against Airbus, but I thought the C-series would have kept Bombardier aircraft division going.
Cansojr
Cansojr 2
I hope BOMBARDIER and AIRBUS keep a tight leash on the product being partly manufactured in Mobile, AB.
xtoler
Larry Toler 2
Why wouldn't they? We are a little backward in Alabama. Between Huntsville and Mobile as a state we've led in aerospace for decades.
yr2012
matt jensen 2
Yeah, as the lowest bidder.
SmokedChops
SmokedChops 4
we also went to the moon on the lowest bidder... that said, you are correct.
Cansojr
Cansojr 3
BEST ANSWER OF THE YEAR!
siriusloon
siriusloon 1
You'd prefer a padded bid that costs customers or taxpayers more than necessary?

The lowest bid -- which is actually the lowest bid that qualifies as capable of doing the job, not the rock-bottom lowest bid -- does not automatically mean it's deficient in some way.

andyc852
Andy Cruickshank 0
All of these locations did not exclusively hire people from Alabama. Huntsville for sure has, and had a vibrant international community and I suspect Mobile is the same. Build a product that meets the customers needs and you will be successful. I do not know a lot about the A220 but what I have read is overwhelmingly positive. I look forward to flying on one soon.
xtoler
Larry Toler 1
You are right. I grew up in Huntsville (until 11 years old anyway), most people living and working there are not from there. My grandfather worked for IBM and was transferred from Binghamton, NY to Huntsville for the Sarurn V program. The biggest employers back in the day was the US Army at Redstone Arsenal and contractors and NASA with George C. Marshall Spaceflight Center.
airuphere
airuphere 1
Me too - see new squawk - KLM unhappy with build quality of 787 from Charleston plant.. you get what you pay for. I hope they have tight controls too.
siriusloon
siriusloon 1
Bombardier does not own the A220 and does not have any oversight of Airbus. If you sell your car to someone, you can't tell them how to drive it or stop them from repainting it a colour you don't like. It's an Airbus product now and Bombardier gave up control of it when they sold it.
Cansojr
Cansojr 2
You are partially correct. Airbus owns 51% of the A220 and Bombardier owns the rest of their businesses. Airbus does not own Bombardier the Canadian government would scuttle that immediately as it is critical to our aerospace sector. Joint ventures are beneficial to both parties provided they are negotiated properly
Cansojr
Cansojr 2
Abus did not purchase Bombardier it ony puchased 51% of the C-Sales no more. Bbombardier is still Bombardier. Airbus will be finished as their once the terms of the contract. Airlines were tired of hearing next monrh. So Bombardier needed a fair body to price and market aircraft.
airuphere
airuphere 1
Yup totally accurate. The confusion stems from Bombardier splitting out their aviation business. CRJs went to Asia, Q400 to Vikking (and other support for dash -7 etc..) Bombardier still owns their biz jets, rail, transit vehicles etc...
Cansojr
Cansojr 1
The A220 could alleviate the forecasted shortage of seaats in the coming years. How long would it take to upgrade it to another 20 or 30 seats. It would not ttake long to do the feasibility on such a project. I believe this is possible and it would keep the eassembly lines open longer than projected.
Cansojr
Cansojr 1
This will be a real bonus for Airbus with finished beautiful new airliners ready to be accepted by their new owners. Seeing Airbus 220s in North Americazn skies Will be a certain boon for Airbus. Less noise, less pollution better product.
enriquep100
Enrique Perrella 0
(Duplicate Squawk Submitted)

Airbus Begins Assembling First A220 In Mobile, Alabama

Airbus has started the manufacturing of the first A220 aircraft at its Final Assembly Line (FAL) in Mobile, Alabama. The first team of Airbus engineers to work on the US A220 program recently arrived back from a training course in Mirabel, where the main production line for the A220 is located. With the new Mobile assembly line, Airbus aims to produce around 40 to 50 A220 family aircraft each year.

http://airwaysmag.com/manufacturer/airbus-begins-a220-mobile/
cmsherbert
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Airbus begins production of A220 aircraft in the United States

Expansion of US commercial aircraft production backed by 400 new jobs - further solidifies Airbus's position as one of the leading aircraft manufacturers in the American industrial landscape, said Jeffrey Knittel, CEO and Chairman of Airbus in the Americas...

https://cmsherbert.blogspot.com/2019/08/airbus-comeca-producao-de-aeronave-a220-nos-US.html

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