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Premier 1A jet crashes into house near South Bend airport

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Local news media say an aircraft has crashed into a home near South Bend Regional Airport in northern Indiana. The South Bend Tribune, WSBT-TV and WNDU-TV report the neighborhood where the plane crash was being evacuated because of a gas leak. WSBT reported on its Twitter feed that the plane was a Lear jet. (www.wthr.com) Mais...

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racinron
racinron 2
Isn't this the third crash of a Premier jet in the past month or so, all fatal?
tarbaby
phil gibson 1
Yes it is....1 in France....1 in Georgia... And this one. All with fatalities.
racinron
racinron 1
Makes you wonder if there is a similar problem that keeps reoccuring. Jack Roush crashed one of these at Oshkosh a few years back, got too slow.

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bizjets101
biz jets 1
That was a major mix up between a departing Piper Cub - which had been told to turn left immediately on take-off, and N6JR who turned on final cleared to land, only to find a Piper Cub rolling down the runway.

N6JR should have added full power and gone around, or if he'd been monitoring departures would have known the Piper was going to turn out of his way.

Instead the aircraft (N6JR) had an aerodynamic stall.

Photo; http://i845.photobucket.com/albums/ab20/bizjets101/N6JR2.jpg
HunterTS4
Toby Sharp 2
very creepy.....R.I.P
manes015
Andrew Manes 2
Surveillance footage

http://www.wndu.com/home/headlines/Surveillance-video-captures-twin-engine-plane-falling-from-the-sky-198846181.html
onceastudentpilot
tim mitchell 1
Just saw this on my local news....It is almost unbelievable that this jet didn't explode on impact...I saw on earlier post that this jet didn't explode due to the way it is designed but I just have to say given the planes spiraling and steep descent it HAS to be something greater than that...I mean yeah you are taught that if you are go to have to land off field it is better to kill all of the electricity to reduce the risk of an fuel ignition but this thing hit three houses and one would assume that all three had power...Not only that but usually whenever a plane falls out of the sky and there is no fire everyone says that the plane obviously was out of fuel but the catch twenty two in this story is that this plane had plenty....People died but at the same time just the fact that two didn't is a miracle.
bizjets101
biz jets 3
One of the survivors is in serious condition, but one is in fair condition - neither with life-threatening injuries - that is truly amazing considering the stall and impact.
kettler
karl kettler 2
Actually an empty fuel tank full of fumes is more deadly then a full one.
edgeair
edgeair 2
I was at a park near the KRVS yesterday. I heard the aircraft take off. I didn't think anything of it, Its a strange feeling.
KevinBrown
Kevin Brown 1
Here is a close up picture of the Jet wreckage. Amazing that this thing didn't catch fire! https://twitter.com/WNDU/status/313431298242924545/photo/1
KevinBrown
Kevin Brown 1
A closer look at the wreckage: https://twitter.com/WSBT/status/313430929253216256/photo/1
KevinBrown
Kevin Brown 1
Another picture from the scene of the crash https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=269910829810706&l=99323e337f
KevinBrown
Kevin Brown 1
CORRECTION: The downed aircraft is now being identifed as a Raytheon Premier 1 from Tulsa that was attempting to land when it crashed. Three victims transported to Hospital. 1 critical 2 non-critical. Not known if they are from the aircraft

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N26DK/history/20130317/1800Z/KRVS/KSBN

Listen to Live local news: http://v5.player.abacast.com/v5.1/player/index.php?uid=6283
tarbaby
phil gibson 1
What's the deal on the Pilots?
KevinBrown
Kevin Brown 1
From NPR new information on the owner of the downed Jet:

"The plane is registered to 7700 Enterprises of Montana LLC in Helena, Mont. The company is owned by Wes Caves and does business as DigiCut Systems in Tulsa, Okla. It makes window film and paint overlay for automobiles. Herwig said he did not know how many people were aboard the jet.

A woman identifying herself as Caves' wife answered the phone at their home Sunday and said, "I think he's dead," before hanging up."

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=174579460
Bernie20910
Bernie Behling 7
7700 Enterprises? That's some serious irony right there...
onceastudentpilot
tim mitchell 1
I am missing something....What is the connection between 7700 Enterprises and this flight?
bizjets101
biz jets 2
ICAO international transponder squawk code 7700 is an emergency.

In this case, though very ironic, is the actual address for Digicut Systems Tulsa location.

7700 E 38TH ST
TULSA, OK 74145-3211
onceastudentpilot
tim mitchell 2
Oh ok....wasn't thinking about the emegerency squawk code and I didn't know the address....That is quit ironic.....thanks
HunterTS4
Toby Sharp 1
tail number?
KevinBrown
Kevin Brown 1
http://www.wsbt.com/news/wsbt-lear-jet-crashes-into-home-near-south-bend-airport-20130317,0,537834.story
KevinBrown
Kevin Brown 1
Tulsa World now reporting 4 fatalities - 2 from the plane and 2 on the ground

http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?subjectid=13&articleid=20130317_13_0_SOUTHB124381#
ericjames
ericjames 1
Tulsa World is wrong.
Freakyrat
Calen Chrzan 1
Most likely it didn't catch fire due to the aircraft design of the Premier1. Also to add to this story. We do not know the identities of the people killed on the plane. Wes Caves is also a licensed pilot.
jfryan
Jerry Ryan 3
Another reason too, is that the FD was on scene incredibly quickly since they were already enroute to the airport, just a few blocks away. The immediately got a foam blanket in place. As of the last briefing a short time ago, they still have fuel pooled in the basement of the house that they are keeping contained & covered.
tarbaby
phil gibson 1
I wonder if the gear was retracted or extended at the crash site.......and position of the flaps??

tarbaby
phil gibson 1
There is a min-maneuvering speed at different bank angles.....may have gotten too slow....maybe?? Just another angle.
dg1941
Damien Gehler 1
Here's more on the crash. Sad that these kind of things always seem to happen over populated areas.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-21826759
gearup328
Peter Steitz 1
Not always. Remember sully? He intentionally missed all those buildings in NYC. Seems to me this accident was an out of control thing or else the pilot would have tried to put it down away from population. Any area for the initial impact would have been better.
bizjets101
biz jets 2
Sully made an emergecny landing, Wes unfortunately experienced an aerodynamic stall to which there was zero chance of recovery and crashed. Still amazing two survived.
FArobertm46
Robert Mooney 1
From news reports the the pilot made a go around. Better on the ground on the airport than off...and we see the result. The electrical/mechanical issue may have involved the landing gear, so he went around and then something else happened. Tough day. RIP those killed.
tarbaby
phil gibson 1
The wx was clear and it was daylight......
tarbaby
phil gibson 1
Cockpit Voice Recorder??
lgeist
Lloyd Geist 1
Look at the descent/climb rate and altitudes between 4:14 and 4:15 PM:

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N26DK/history/20130317/1800Z/KRVS/KSBN/tracklog
lgeist
Lloyd Geist 1
Sorry, between 15:14 and 15:15 local time.
dbaker
Daniel Baker 1
The descent is probably accurate, but I expect the immediate climb to FL170 is an error in FAA data.
tarbaby
phil gibson 1
With possible electrical problems, the encoding info may have been incorrect.
sejarzo
Steve Jarzombek 1
Updated info from wsbt.com: Premier 1 N26DK from Roy Jones Airport in Tulsa, OK. On approach the pilot reported an electrical problem, according to the FAA. The pilot made several landing attempts and on the last attempt, it stalled out and crashed into the homes.
jfryan
Jerry Ryan 1
The original dispatch from ARFF to South Bend Fire was, that they had a plane that had no electrical power, so they lost radio contact, and that he only had partial gear down on intial approach. As the South Bend fire units were responding, one of the FD units saw the plane crash in the neighborhood after his failed approach.

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twincessna
william koehler 1
This eight in in the last several years . It's more the single pilot then the aircraft
bizjets101
biz jets 1
https://twitter.com/bizjet101/status/313426394296242177 N26DK 2008 Premier 1A with less than 300 hours on the aircraft, possible new owner.
KevinBrown
Kevin Brown 1
BREAKING UPDATE: The FAA confirms of the four people on the jet, two were killed.
dbaker
Daniel Baker 1
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N26DK

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dbaker
Daniel Baker 2
You are mistaken.
bizjets101
biz jets 0
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N26DK Premier 1A crash caught on CCTV

Black and white video of the actual crash, pilot witness statement;

I was waiting to taxi when SBN tower told us they were working an emergency. Unfortunately, I saw the whole thing. They attempted to land, looked like they were going to land about 3/4 of the way down the runway and went around. Started a slight right turn, nose pitched up,steep turn to the right, very nose high then rolled on its back. Spun twice inverted rolled back over and hit the ground. I didn't see any smoke. CFR at SBN took off immediately.
What a horrible sight to see. God bless them and their families. Amazed that there were survivors.


https://twitter.com/bizjet101/status/314054547205140480
gppilot
N. C. 0
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Hawker Beechcraft 390 goes down in Indiana

Corporate jet N26DK flight track, KRVS - KSBN. Registered to 7700 Enterprises of Montana LLC in Helena, Montana.

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N26DK
willlds
william Willard 0
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UPDATE: Surveillance video captures twin-engine plane crash into homes

Two surveillance cameras from nearby businesses captured what could be the only videos of a twin-engine jet falling from the sky Sunday afternoon.

http://www.wndu.com/home/headlines/Surveillance-video-captures-twin-engine-plane-falling-from-the-sky-198846181.html
KevinBrown
Kevin Brown 0
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BREAKING NEWS: Learjet Crash South Bend Indiana

It is being reported that a Learjet crashed in a South Bend neighborhood (1600 block of Iowa). Listen to Live SB Fire http://www.broadcastify.com/listen/feed/6122/web

Updates to follow

https://twitter.com/WSBT/status/313397891131654145/photo/1
gppilot
N. C. 0
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Hawker Beechcraft 390 goes down in Indiana

Flight was enroute from Tulsa, Oklahoma on Sunday afternoon, scheduled to land at South Bend Regional Airport.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/03/17/us/indiana-plane-crash/?hpt=hp_t3
alwadejr
Lewis Wade 0
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N26DK (Beechcraft Premier I) crashes enroute to KSBN

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N26DK

Aircraft crashes into home, 3 people taken to hospital with non-life threatening injuries (2 reportedly from the aircraft with a total of 4 soul on board) 1 person confirmed inside of house with 2 possibly living there... story is being updated.

http://www.wsbt.com/news/wsbt-lear-jet-crashes-into-home-near-south-bend-airport-20130317,0,537834.story

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