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Boeing 737-700 (N455WN)
The dawn light is beginning to brighten up the sky and a bit of sunlight is being reflected from the upper story windows of a downtown Reno casino as Southwest's N455WN accelerates along Runway 16R to end its RON stay and start another revenue day.
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Catching the departures of the 23 aircraft that RON at RNO means arriving at the airport by 5:30 AM, but it's worth the loss of a couple hours of sleep to get the early dawn and daybreak shots.
Alright now, I have to know - what settings are you using in that light to create a good shot? There doesn't appear to be much noise and the aircraft is nice and crisp, the movement is sweetly blurred and the lighting gives the right impression for the early morning.
Excellent shot, Gary.
I am going to take a wild flying guess here. ISO 600, f/4, 1/1000 sec.
I am going to take a wild flying guess here. ISO 600, f/4, 1/1000 sec.
Gavin & Viv ... Hey, guys, howdy! Here's the info re: settings. Viv, 2 out of 3 so very well done. (Grin)
First, to explain a bit, RNO is positioned between two mountain ranges. To the west, the Sierra Nevada; to the east, the Virginia Range. As a result, on clear (non-cloudy) days, both at sunrise and then again at sunset, when the sun is either just appearing or finally disappearing at the earth's horizon, it is "behind" one of those two mountain ranges. Thus, even tho there is some sun, because the mountains are blocking it in its earliest moment of dawn or its final moments of dusk, the airport and the city are in darkness. After several years of "trial and error," I've figured out the settings I need when taking shots at those "first light" and "last light" moments.
ISO? 800. That's the highest I go. Yes, I do get a bit of noise at that setting but it is minimal. PS has an editing tool that performs "REDUCE NOISE." Using that feature does, in fact, reduce the noise that occurs at an ISO 800 setting .... the important thing for you to do is isolate (with the magic wand) just the area you want to use the REDUCE NOISE feature on (such as just the sky). REDUCE NOISE simultaneously degrades the pinpoint clarity of everything it is used on, so if you REDUCE NOISE of the entire photo, the sharp clarity of the main object (the SW in this pic) is also degraded. So use the magic wand to outline and isolate the area you want the noise reduced on, and the main object remains sharp and clear.
f/4.5 for this shot, but I vary it between f/4.0 and f/5.0 depending on how much darkness. My primary problem here at RNO during twilight / nighttime hours are those da_n High Pressure Sodium lights. I've heard that RNO has a retrofit to LED lighting in the plans for the future but I've not heard any date given for that retrofit. When I'm shooting from the east as seen here, those crummy HPS lights backblast every pic with that lousy yellow lighting and turn the aircraft in the foreground into just a shadow. If I adjust to illuminate the aircraft in the foreground, the HPS lights blow out everything in the background. When shooting from the west, the HPS lights give everything in the foreground a yellow "overcast" and the aircraft in the background is always poorly lit ... and the mountains in the distance, from either direction, cannot be discerned at all. As a result of the above circumstances, I need a very, VERY slow shutter.
Shutter: 1/80th for this shot but I vary it from 1/40th to 1/160th. I have no option but to use a slow shutter. If I were to go to ISO 1600 I could use a faster shutter but I'd had more noise and I'd have to increase the % of REDUCE NOISE; thus, simultaneously softening the original clarity too much. If I go higher on the f stop, the combination of those High Pressure Sodiums and the sky getting brighter but the airport not at all illuminated by any sunlight means I lose much (or all) of any interesting background(s). The only way I can get a distinguishable, sharp, and crisp shot of the moving aircraft AND some background with it is with a very slow shutter AND a good steady, straight pan that stays smoothly with the moving aircraft. I fire in burst mode, a minimum of 3 per burst, a max of 4 per burst. Less than 3 cuts the "successful single capture" percentage from 66% to 50%; a burst of 4 seems to result in a "successful single capture" percentage of 50% (BUT with 2 out of 4 chances), and a burst of more than 4 is usually useless because it is really difficult to hold a steady, smooth pan more than four shots on a moving aircraft because human hands are not steady platforms AND backgrounds lighting conditions change rapidly anyway as the aircraft moves along. BTW ... I do NOT use a tripod. My opinion (purely personal, of course) is that putting a camera on a tripod and having the photographer remove his / her hands from the camera (and going off to eat a sandwich, smoke a cigarette or nurse on a vape, or use the restroom) and then returning to say, "Wow, look at the picture I took" is a lie since the photographer was not "hands on" with the camera when the shutter fired. So I never use a tripod.
Hey, guys, I hope this info helps. Certainly, if you try these settings, you'll find you must adjust for the circumstances at your locations, but perhaps this info will give you (and any other adventurous photogs) a "starting point" .... and maybe save you the "trial & error" stuff I went thru. (Fingers crossed for ya.)
First, to explain a bit, RNO is positioned between two mountain ranges. To the west, the Sierra Nevada; to the east, the Virginia Range. As a result, on clear (non-cloudy) days, both at sunrise and then again at sunset, when the sun is either just appearing or finally disappearing at the earth's horizon, it is "behind" one of those two mountain ranges. Thus, even tho there is some sun, because the mountains are blocking it in its earliest moment of dawn or its final moments of dusk, the airport and the city are in darkness. After several years of "trial and error," I've figured out the settings I need when taking shots at those "first light" and "last light" moments.
ISO? 800. That's the highest I go. Yes, I do get a bit of noise at that setting but it is minimal. PS has an editing tool that performs "REDUCE NOISE." Using that feature does, in fact, reduce the noise that occurs at an ISO 800 setting .... the important thing for you to do is isolate (with the magic wand) just the area you want to use the REDUCE NOISE feature on (such as just the sky). REDUCE NOISE simultaneously degrades the pinpoint clarity of everything it is used on, so if you REDUCE NOISE of the entire photo, the sharp clarity of the main object (the SW in this pic) is also degraded. So use the magic wand to outline and isolate the area you want the noise reduced on, and the main object remains sharp and clear.
f/4.5 for this shot, but I vary it between f/4.0 and f/5.0 depending on how much darkness. My primary problem here at RNO during twilight / nighttime hours are those da_n High Pressure Sodium lights. I've heard that RNO has a retrofit to LED lighting in the plans for the future but I've not heard any date given for that retrofit. When I'm shooting from the east as seen here, those crummy HPS lights backblast every pic with that lousy yellow lighting and turn the aircraft in the foreground into just a shadow. If I adjust to illuminate the aircraft in the foreground, the HPS lights blow out everything in the background. When shooting from the west, the HPS lights give everything in the foreground a yellow "overcast" and the aircraft in the background is always poorly lit ... and the mountains in the distance, from either direction, cannot be discerned at all. As a result of the above circumstances, I need a very, VERY slow shutter.
Shutter: 1/80th for this shot but I vary it from 1/40th to 1/160th. I have no option but to use a slow shutter. If I were to go to ISO 1600 I could use a faster shutter but I'd had more noise and I'd have to increase the % of REDUCE NOISE; thus, simultaneously softening the original clarity too much. If I go higher on the f stop, the combination of those High Pressure Sodiums and the sky getting brighter but the airport not at all illuminated by any sunlight means I lose much (or all) of any interesting background(s). The only way I can get a distinguishable, sharp, and crisp shot of the moving aircraft AND some background with it is with a very slow shutter AND a good steady, straight pan that stays smoothly with the moving aircraft. I fire in burst mode, a minimum of 3 per burst, a max of 4 per burst. Less than 3 cuts the "successful single capture" percentage from 66% to 50%; a burst of 4 seems to result in a "successful single capture" percentage of 50% (BUT with 2 out of 4 chances), and a burst of more than 4 is usually useless because it is really difficult to hold a steady, smooth pan more than four shots on a moving aircraft because human hands are not steady platforms AND backgrounds lighting conditions change rapidly anyway as the aircraft moves along. BTW ... I do NOT use a tripod. My opinion (purely personal, of course) is that putting a camera on a tripod and having the photographer remove his / her hands from the camera (and going off to eat a sandwich, smoke a cigarette or nurse on a vape, or use the restroom) and then returning to say, "Wow, look at the picture I took" is a lie since the photographer was not "hands on" with the camera when the shutter fired. So I never use a tripod.
Hey, guys, I hope this info helps. Certainly, if you try these settings, you'll find you must adjust for the circumstances at your locations, but perhaps this info will give you (and any other adventurous photogs) a "starting point" .... and maybe save you the "trial & error" stuff I went thru. (Fingers crossed for ya.)
Thanks Gary. I can't even pan well enough in good light to get a result at that shutter speed - never have actually even when I was young and fresh. I don't use a tripod either, (or monopod, as one guy I know does), more a hindrance than a help I reckon. I used PS 'reduce noise' on a few of my recent uploaded pics to get them to at least a reasonable standard for posting - very handy tool.
Gavin ... Those shutter speed ranges I mentioned were only for night and twilight pics. And actually, panning in low light at those slow speeds isn't all that difficult. I'm an old f--t with old man shakes but I can get 'em OK. Give it a try. (The beauty of digital is that it costs nothing but time to try something and if it doesn't work just hit the TRASH button.) Try it with the sun down below the horizon but still early to mid twilight (not total darkness). Try two bursts of 4. That gives you 8 chances of getting one good one. ISO 800, f/4.0, 1/100 shutter, aim (thru the eyepiece, NOT via the screen) and get a focal point, smooth pan with it, SNAP< SNAP< SNAP< SNAP<, finger off the shutter, then refocus, SNAP< SNAP< SNAP< SNAP<. Viewing thru the eyepiece results in a far, FAR smoother and more steady pan. Use autofocus. BTW, your camera's autofocus works best when you aim it at some area of contrast on the plane (such as a place where there is colorful paint on a light color background). Let's use the titles on the Southwest in my pic. The title SOUTHWEST is in white on dark blue fuselage paint. Because I was trying to snap this in very low light, everything is rather dark and A/F works best with light/dark contrast, so I needed to give my A/F as much "help" as possible by finding a strong area of light/dark contrast. Autofocus works best when it is aimed at distinctive contrast. So I aimed at the bottom of one of the white letters in the SOUTHWEST title, where the white meets the dark blue. Even tho the side of the jet facing me was not highly illuminated by daylight, the A/F easily detected the stark contrast between white and dark blue, "read" the distance, focused, and I panned as I snapped a 3-shot burst. As the plane swept by, I re-aimed at an area with strong contrast, the A/F refocused, and I clicked another burst. I ended up with 3 3-shot bursts; a total of 9 pics, which gave me very good odds of getting at least one keeper. (I ended up trashing 4 and keeping 5 and of those 5 I posted one here and sent the best one to an extremely important recipient agency. I don't get paid with $ for my pics because I refuse to accept $ which makes me an amateur photographer, but I do receive other forms of compensation that are, let's just say, "quite valuable.")
That's a really nice looking shot, Gary!
Thanks Greg. I suspect from your words we may be somewhere in the same age group but I've rarely been able to make a steady enough pan at low shutter speeds, younger or now. Got no probs with A/F and understanding contrast and I NEVER use the monitor screen for this type of photography. I photograph trams (streetcars as you'd call them) and I use it when necessary (over fences) but that's presetting the focus, holding it, and just let the camera run as the tram passes. I can generally get two or three then that are useful but for aircraft, viewfinder is the only way to go. All that said tho, I will keep trying panning because all the work that higher ISOs cause is a grind:)
Beautiful photo!
Thanx, BigAl. (Wave)
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Date | Aircraft | Origin | Destination | Departure | Arrival | Duration |
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25-Apr-2024 | B737 | Minneapolis/St Paul Intl (KMSP) | Chicago Midway Intl (KMDW) | 11:55AM CDT | 01:05PM CDT | Scheduled |
25-Apr-2024 | B737 | Baltimore/Washington Intl (KBWI) | Minneapolis/St Paul Intl (KMSP) | 09:35AM EDT | 11:00AM CDT | Scheduled |
25-Apr-2024 | B737 | Savannah/Hilton Head Intl (KSAV) | Baltimore/Washington Intl (KBWI) | 07:15AM EDT | 08:40AM EDT | Scheduled |
24-Apr-2024 | B737 | Reno/Tahoe Intl (KRNO) | San Jose Int'l (KSJC) | 06:55PM PDT | 07:45PM PDT | Scheduled |
24-Apr-2024 | B737 | Nashville Intl (KBNA) | Savannah/Hilton Head Intl (KSAV) | 07:40PM CDT | 09:45PM EDT | Scheduled |
24-Apr-2024 | B737 | Houston Bush Int'ctl (KIAH) | Nashville Intl (KBNA) | 05:00PM CDT | 06:40PM CDT | Scheduled |
24-Apr-2024 | B737 | Denver Intl (KDEN) | Houston Bush Int'ctl (KIAH) | 12:50PM MDT | 03:50PM CDT | Scheduled |
24-Apr-2024 | B737 | Los Angeles Intl (KLAX) | Denver Intl (KDEN) | 08:40AM PDT | 11:40AM MDT | Scheduled |
24-Apr-2024 | B737 | San Francisco Int'l (KSFO) | Los Angeles Intl (KLAX) | 06:30AM PDT | 07:35AM PDT | Scheduled |
23-Apr-2024 | B737 | San Diego Intl (KSAN) | San Francisco Int'l (KSFO) | 08:43PM PDT | 09:51PM PDT | 1:07 |
23-Apr-2024 | B737 | San Francisco Int'l (KSFO) | San Diego Intl (KSAN) | 06:02PM PDT | 07:09PM PDT | 1:06 |
23-Apr-2024 | B737 | San Diego Intl (KSAN) | San Francisco Int'l (KSFO) | 03:46PM PDT | 05:05PM PDT | 1:19 |
23-Apr-2024 | B737 | Chicago Midway Intl (KMDW) | San Diego Intl (KSAN) | 12:26PM CDT | 02:34PM PDT | 4:08 |
23-Apr-2024 | B737 | Los Angeles Intl (KLAX) | Chicago Midway Intl (KMDW) | 05:39AM PDT | 11:00AM CDT | 3:21 |
22-Apr-2024 | B737 | Denver Intl (KDEN) | Los Angeles Intl (KLAX) | 09:49PM MDT | 10:51PM PDT | 2:01 |
22-Apr-2024 | B737 | Houston Bush Int'ctl (KIAH) | Denver Intl (KDEN) | 07:10PM CDT | 08:12PM MDT | 2:01 |
22-Apr-2024 | B737 | Denver Intl (KDEN) | Houston Bush Int'ctl (KIAH) | 03:19PM MDT | 06:10PM CDT | 1:50 |
22-Apr-2024 | B737 | Lubbock Smith Intl (KLBB) | Denver Intl (KDEN) | 02:11PM CDT | 02:20PM MDT | 1:08 |
22-Apr-2024 | B737 | Denver Intl (KDEN) | Lubbock Smith Intl (KLBB) | 11:18AM MDT | 01:18PM CDT | 0:59 |
22-Apr-2024 | B737 | John Wayne (KSNA) | Denver Intl (KDEN) | 07:23AM PDT | 10:18AM MDT | 1:55 |
21-Apr-2024 | B737 | Metro Oakland Intl (KOAK) | John Wayne (KSNA) | 08:51PM PDT | 09:56PM PDT | 1:05 |
21-Apr-2024 | B737 | Gowen Field (KBOI) | Metro Oakland Intl (KOAK) | 07:30PM MDT | 07:55PM PDT | 1:25 |
21-Apr-2024 | B737 | Daugherty Field (KLGB) | Gowen Field (KBOI) | 03:33PM PDT | 06:06PM MDT | 1:32 |
21-Apr-2024 | B737 | Harry Reid Intl (KLAS) | Daugherty Field (KLGB) | 02:00PM PDT | 02:44PM PDT | 0:43 |
21-Apr-2024 | B737 | Daugherty Field (KLGB) | Harry Reid Intl (KLAS) | 11:42AM PDT | 12:25PM PDT | 0:43 |
21-Apr-2024 | B737 | Portland Intl (KPDX) | Daugherty Field (KLGB) | 08:39AM PDT | 10:34AM PDT | 1:54 |
21-Apr-2024 | B737 | Sacramento Intl (KSMF) | Portland Intl (KPDX) | 06:39AM PDT | 07:49AM PDT | 1:10 |
20-Apr-2024 | B737 | Harry Reid Intl (KLAS) | Sacramento Intl (KSMF) | 05:35PM PDT | 06:41PM PDT | 1:05 |
20-Apr-2024 | B737 | Fresno Yosemite Intl (KFAT) | Harry Reid Intl (KLAS) | 02:54PM PDT | 03:44PM PDT | 0:50 |
20-Apr-2024 | B737 | Denver Intl (KDEN) | Fresno Yosemite Intl (KFAT) | 01:03PM MDT | 02:02PM PDT | 1:58 |
20-Apr-2024 | B737 | Reno/Tahoe Intl (KRNO) | Denver Intl (KDEN) | 09:00AM PDT | 11:47AM MDT | 1:47 |
20-Apr-2024 | B737 | Denver Intl (KDEN) | Reno/Tahoe Intl (KRNO) | 06:14AM MDT | 07:10AM PDT | 1:56 |
20-Apr-2024 | B737 | Denver Intl (KDEN) | Reno/Tahoe Intl (KRNO) | 01:12AM MDT | 02:16AM PDT (+1) | Cancelled |
19-Apr-2024 | B737 | Los Angeles Intl (KLAX) | Denver Intl (KDEN) | 06:06PM PDT | 08:55PM MDT | 1:49 |
19-Apr-2024 | B737 | Metro Oakland Intl (KOAK) | Los Angeles Intl (KLAX) | 03:49PM PDT | 04:47PM PDT | 0:57 |
19-Apr-2024 | B737 | John Wayne (KSNA) | Metro Oakland Intl (KOAK) | 12:44PM PDT | 01:45PM PDT | 1:00 |
19-Apr-2024 | B737 | Harry Reid Intl (KLAS) | John Wayne (KSNA) | 11:13AM PDT | 11:53AM PDT | 0:40 |
19-Apr-2024 | B737 | Salt Lake City Intl (KSLC) | Harry Reid Intl (KLAS) | 09:50AM MDT | 09:50AM PDT | 0:59 |
19-Apr-2024 | B737 | Harry Reid Intl (KLAS) | Salt Lake City Intl (KSLC) | 06:46AM PDT | 08:40AM MDT | 0:53 |
18-Apr-2024 | B737 | Nashville Intl (KBNA) | Harry Reid Intl (KLAS) | 10:10PM CDT | 11:59PM PDT | 3:49 |
18-Apr-2024 | B737 | Charleston Intl/AFB (KCHS) | Nashville Intl (KBNA) | 08:50PM EDT | 09:03PM CDT | 1:12 |
18-Apr-2024 | B737 | Denver Intl (KDEN) | Charleston Intl/AFB (KCHS) | 02:55PM MDT | 07:47PM EDT | 2:52 |
18-Apr-2024 | B737 | Gowen Field (KBOI) | Denver Intl (KDEN) | 11:52AM MDT | 01:13PM MDT | 1:20 |
18-Apr-2024 | B737 | Metro Oakland Intl (KOAK) | Gowen Field (KBOI) | 08:48AM PDT | 10:56AM MDT | 1:07 |
18-Apr-2024 | B737 | Seattle-Tacoma Intl (KSEA) | Metro Oakland Intl (KOAK) | 05:55AM PDT | 07:36AM PDT | 1:41 |
17-Apr-2024 | B737 | Metro Oakland Intl (KOAK) | Seattle-Tacoma Intl (KSEA) | 08:01PM PDT | 09:37PM PDT | 1:36 |
17-Apr-2024 | B737 | Palm Springs Intl (KPSP) | Metro Oakland Intl (KOAK) | 05:57PM PDT | 07:04PM PDT | 1:06 |
17-Apr-2024 | B737 | Denver Intl (KDEN) | Palm Springs Intl (KPSP) | 03:58PM MDT | 04:48PM PDT | 1:50 |
17-Apr-2024 | B737 | Kansas City Intl (KMCI) | Denver Intl (KDEN) | 01:47PM CDT | 02:13PM MDT | 1:25 |
17-Apr-2024 | B737 | Austin-Bergstrom Intl (KAUS) | Kansas City Intl (KMCI) | 11:19AM CDT | 12:48PM CDT | 1:29 |
17-Apr-2024 | B737 | Albuquerque Intl Sunport (KABQ) | Austin-Bergstrom Intl (KAUS) | 08:01AM MDT | 10:19AM CDT | 1:18 |
16-Apr-2024 | B737 | Austin-Bergstrom Intl (KAUS) | Albuquerque Intl Sunport (KABQ) | 08:07PM CDT | 08:43PM MDT | 1:35 |
16-Apr-2024 | B737 | Tampa Intl (KTPA) | Austin-Bergstrom Intl (KAUS) | 05:34PM EDT | 06:51PM CDT | 2:17 |
16-Apr-2024 | B737 | Reagan National (KDCA) | Tampa Intl (KTPA) | 02:44PM EDT | 04:37PM EDT | 1:52 |
16-Apr-2024 | B737 | New Orleans Intl (KMSY) | Reagan National (KDCA) | 10:18AM CDT | 01:29PM EDT | 2:11 |
16-Apr-2024 | B737 | Hartsfield-Jackson Intl (KATL) | New Orleans Intl (KMSY) | 08:58AM EDT | 09:09AM CDT | 1:10 |
16-Apr-2024 | B737 | Raleigh-Durham Intl (KRDU) | Hartsfield-Jackson Intl (KATL) | 06:40AM EDT | 07:36AM EDT | 0:56 |
15-Apr-2024 | B737 | Nashville Intl (KBNA) | Raleigh-Durham Intl (KRDU) | 07:59PM CDT | 10:07PM EDT | 1:07 |
15-Apr-2024 | B737 | Northwest Florida Beaches Intl (KECP) | Nashville Intl (KBNA) | 05:31PM CDT | 06:37PM CDT | 1:05 |
15-Apr-2024 | B737 | William P Hobby (KHOU) | Northwest Florida Beaches Intl (KECP) | 03:14PM CDT | 04:29PM CDT | 1:14 |
15-Apr-2024 | B737 | Chicago Midway Intl (KMDW) | William P Hobby (KHOU) | 11:43AM CDT | 01:55PM CDT | 2:11 |
15-Apr-2024 | B737 | Harry Reid Intl (KLAS) | Chicago Midway Intl (KMDW) | 05:19AM PDT | 10:11AM CDT | 2:52 |
14-Apr-2024 | B737 | Austin-Bergstrom Intl (KAUS) | Harry Reid Intl (KLAS) | 10:24PM CDT | 11:04PM PDT | 2:40 |
14-Apr-2024 | B737 | Hartsfield-Jackson Intl (KATL) | Austin-Bergstrom Intl (KAUS) | 08:08PM EDT | 09:08PM CDT | 1:59 |
14-Apr-2024 | B737 | Denver Intl (KDEN) | Hartsfield-Jackson Intl (KATL) | 02:23PM MDT | 06:41PM EDT | 2:18 |
14-Apr-2024 | B737 | Clinton National (KLIT) | Denver Intl (KDEN) | 12:10PM CDT | 01:03PM MDT | 1:52 |
14-Apr-2024 | B737 | St Louis Lambert Intl (KSTL) | Clinton National (KLIT) | 10:35AM CDT | 11:20AM CDT | 0:45 |
14-Apr-2024 | B737 | Southwest Florida Intl (KRSW) | St Louis Lambert Intl (KSTL) | 08:16AM EDT | 09:45AM CDT | 2:29 |
13-Apr-2024 | B737 | Baltimore/Washington Intl (KBWI) | Southwest Florida Intl (KRSW) | 03:22PM EDT | 05:31PM EDT | 2:08 |
13-Apr-2024 | B737 | Manchester Boston Rgnl (KMHT) | Baltimore/Washington Intl (KBWI) | 12:39PM EDT | 01:45PM EDT | 1:06 |
13-Apr-2024 | B737 | Chicago Midway Intl (KMDW) | Manchester Boston Rgnl (KMHT) | 09:00AM CDT | 11:46AM EDT | 1:45 |
13-Apr-2024 | B737 | Memphis Intl (KMEM) | Chicago Midway Intl (KMDW) | 06:04AM CDT | 07:21AM CDT | 1:16 |
12-Apr-2024 | B737 | William P Hobby (KHOU) | Memphis Intl (KMEM) | 08:02PM CDT | 09:08PM CDT | 1:05 |
12-Apr-2024 | B737 | Los Cabos Int'l (SJD / MMSD) | William P Hobby (KHOU) | 01:57PM MST | 05:51PM CDT | 1:53 |
12-Apr-2024 | B737 | Phoenix Sky Harbor Intl (KPHX) | Los Cabos Int'l (SJD / MMSD) | 10:57AM MST | 12:45PM MST | 1:47 |
12-Apr-2024 | B737 | El Paso Intl (KELP) | Phoenix Sky Harbor Intl (KPHX) | 09:37AM MDT | 09:32AM MST | 0:55 |
12-Apr-2024 | B737 | Dallas Love Fld (KDAL) | El Paso Intl (KELP) | 08:06AM CDT | 08:33AM MDT | 1:26 |
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